HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Planning Commission 1998-01-20BRADFORD PUBLISHING CO.RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Planning Connnission
January 20, 1998
Commission:
Attending:
Also Attending:
Absent:
Chairman A1 Sager, Commissioners Mark Brown,
Harriet Burgess,A Alma Hix, Edward Pohl and
David Thomas
All
Trustee Liaison G. Hix, Town Attorney White,
Director Stamey, Senior Planner Joseph and
Secretary Botic
None
Chairman Sager called the meeting to order at 1:32 p.m.
Minutes of the December 16, 1997 meeting were approved as
presented.
RT.RrTION OF OFFICERS. APPOINTMENT OF SECRETARY.
A1 Sager was nominated Chair and it passed unanimously. Ed
Pohl was nominated Vice Chair and it passed unanimously. The
Community Development Secretary, currently Roxanne Botic, was
appointed as Recording Secretary.
Chair Sager announced Item #5 on the Agenda - Public Hearing
on Width of Buildings in the Downtown Commercial District, was
withdrawn from the Agenda.
3. SPECIAL REVIEWS
3. a. Special Review 97-04, Streets of Estes_Park.,__Shayne
Copper, Paradis a Carriage/Applicant. (Continued from
12/16/97) This request is for horse-drawn carriage rides for
the public on the streets of Estes Park. Attorney Richard
Ball, Applicant's representative, reviewed Paradise Carriage
history, Mr. Copper's experience and noted 4 people are
involved when there is a carriage ride in Estes Park. Melanie
Patton, of Masonville, runs a Wedding Emporium in Masonville
and is responsible for marketing and reservations. Ms. Patton
stated there will be no carriage rides on busy holidays such
as July 4th. Cynthia Hoopshle explained the business began 2^
years ago, safety is their first concern, a 'slow moving'
placard is utilized, a pilot car follows which is responsible
for manure removal. Requests are usually for weddings or
anniversaries and she noted Mr. Copper is familiar with Estes
Park streets and traffic. Mr. Ball provided the Commissioners
with a picture album of the carriage used and stated the
insurance is for $300,000. Town Attorney White explained the
limits are determined by the State and must be
$150,000/$600,000. Senior Planner Joseph reviewed staff
comments noting a device to collect manure is recommended.
Police Chief Repola explained a device is safer and more
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efficient. Chief Repola also discussed safety issues
regarding street widths. Mr. Joseph noted correspondence has
been received from Cathy Hughes and Holly Erwin (Black Canyon
Carriages, Inc.). Cathy Hughes was also in the audience and
questioned if approval would only include weddings. Chair
Sager noted the request is not limited to only weddings. It
was moved and seconded (Brown/Pohl) Special Review 97-04,
Streets of Estes Park, be favorably recommended to the Board
of Trustees with the following conditions, and it passed
unanimously.
• No staging of this operation shall be allowed from public
property within the Town without prior approval of the
Town authority responsible for the property involved.
• No stopping for solicitation of business shall be allowed
on public property within the Town.
• Applicants shall provide a copy of Certificate of
Insurance for a minimum of $150,000/$600,000.
• No signage on public property within the Town
• A Business License shall be obtained.
• If traffic conflicts or other use conflicts occur on the
streets. Town Staff is authorized to restrict operations
until the problem is corrected.
• Equipment on carriage shall be equipped with brakes, and
lights (if the operator intends to provide service after
sunset) and a "slow moving vehicle" placard attached to
the rear of the carriage.
• A sanitary device shall be provided to capture manure.
• Route usage shall be restricted to streets with adequate
shoulder, multi-lanes or streets 25 mph or less as per
Chief Repola's Memo dated 12/16/97.
• Routes not related to weddings shall be same as existing
carriage route (Route approved for Black Canyon
Carriages).
■qpp.ffial Review 95-01. Tract 4. Beaver Point Addition,-
5 50 Mo-rainp^ Avenue, RiverRock__Homes,----Peter—and—Ricki
Tng^T-flftii /Appi i ranh.g. (Continued from 12/16/97) This request
is to modify the unit mix and increase total density by three
units. Commissioner A. Hix declared a conflict of interest
and was excused. Senior Planner Joseph reviewed the history
of this project and concerns/recommendations of the staff
report. Applicant's representative. Bill Van Horn, responded
addressing the bonus request. He also noted ISO standards
have been addressed, provided documentation regarding
condominiums declarations for Attorney White's review, stated
recommended plantings will be done and two buildings will be
re-designed to recognize the 30' setback and encroaching
buildings. He noted Applicants are responding to comments
from current homeowners within the project who favor this
proposal.
Applicant Ricki Ingersoll stated the covenants do not allow
rentals (minimum is 2 weeks or 1 month), currently there are
no renters. She explained design issues, the road corridor,
guest parking, landscaping, profit margin, bike path
construction and the advantages of this proposal.
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A lengthy discussion followed with concerns raised regarding
finished floor elevations, berming, view corridor, density
bonus, landscaping, parking, traffic volume/impact on Highway
36, floor plan layout with regards to proximity of highway and
noise abatement, grading plans and elevator tower height.
Audience comment; Lori Jeffrey, Trout Farm owner, expressed
concern with elevator towers blocking her commercial signs.
Commissioner Brown stated he has heard the information
presented this date and at two previous Meetings; the
architecture is '5 star', some attractions remain, the
internal pond is gone, the project has been down-scaled, the
developer had the opportunity to meet the 30' requirement and
chose not to. The presentation does not qualify for a density
bonus, the rights of development to maintain integrity remain,
the proponent is not under any hardship and approval would
allow for additional revenue to the Applicant. Finding no
compelling reason to grant a density bonus after a project has
begun and noting the proposal does not meet Special Review
criteria, it was moved and seconded (Brown/Gilfillan) Amended
Special Review 95-01, Tract 4, Beaver Point Addition, 550
Moraine Avenue, RiverRock Homes be recommended for denial to
the Board of Trustees, and it passed with the following votes.
Those voting "Yes": Brown, Burgess, Pohl, Thomas, those voting
"No": Sager and one abstention.
Commissioner A. Hix resumed her position on the Commission.
Due to a previous commitment. Commissioner Gilfillan was
excused.
3.b. Special Review 98-01, Lots 2,_3 & W of Lot 4,—Block 2,.
T.r>np> Ping Acres Addition, Lakeview Plaza.._1751 N. Lake.Avenue,
T.n-ri Jeffrgy/Appi i nant This is a proposal for an indoor
playground. Applicant Lori Jeffrey explained the project will
be a family entertainment center including music, snacks,
crafts, etc. A parent or guardian must accompany their
children; it will not be a drop off center. Mr. Joseph
reviewed the Staff report recommending approval.
Audience comments: Sue Langdon, 1840 Raven Avenue, who had
questions regarding operating hours, noise, age group,
loitering, how many children parent/guardians may bring. Ms.
Jeffrey responded stating hours would be 9:30 a.m. - 8:00 p.m.
(9:00 p.m. winter), 7 days a week. Some parents/guardians may
bring a group of children, target age will be 4-14, other
activities will be available for older children. Staff
members will be on-site with t-shirts or vests to designate
their status. There is a potential for future activities to
include field trips in RMNP.
Joe Wise, Ponderosa Realty, spoke representing Douglas and
Carolyn Peal who own a home on Raven Avenue. The Peals are
concerned as they believe the construction of Fairbanks Center
has reduced the value of their home. Mr. Wise expressed
concerns with the height of the building, the threat of
proposed activity and related noise on the Peals' view and
value of their home. Staff stated Fairbanks Center does
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conform to setbacks and was approved by the Planning
Commission. The Plan was submitted without architectural
elevations and usage was proposed as retail/office space.
Dave Fairbanks stated he purchased the property in 1994 and
there have been no changes in the original concept, they
planned for a 30' building and built one 25'. There is
appropriate insulation/sound proofing and fireproofing.
Director Stamey responded to earlier concerns voiced by Mr.
Wise regarding the zoning of the Peal property. Recognizing
the value of this proposal, it was moved and seconded
(Burgess/Brown) Special Review 98-01, Lots 2, 3 & W 14 of Lot
4, Block 2, Lone Pine Acres Addition, Lakeview Plaza, 1751 N.
Lake Avenue be favorably recommended to the Board of Trustees,
and it passed unanimously.
4. SUBDIVISIONS
4 a. ATTiPndPri Plat, Lot lf Hartland Subdivision. A Replat_o£
T.nt 7, South Saint Vrain Addition and Lot 1,—Esquire Acres
SiiV>divl.qif»n of Lot 8f South Saint Vrain Addition,—John and
Siiaan Baptista/Applicants. This request is to change an
access easement to the adjoining property to the east. Mr.
Joseph reviewed the staff report. Applicant's representative.
Bill Van Horn, agreed to Staff recommendations. There were no
audience comments. Recognizing this proposal will resolve a
number of issues, it was moved and seconded (Thomas/Brown)
Amended Plat, Lot 1, Hartland Svibdivision, A Replat of Lot 7,
South Saint Vrain Addition and Lot 1, Esquire Acres
Subdivision of Lot 8, South Saint Vrain Addition, be favorably
recommended to the Board of Trustees subject to the following
conditions, and it passed unanimously.
• The Applicant shall document the agreement with this
revision of the owners of Lot 2 who use this Access
Easement.
• There may be an illegal subdivision on this property, if
so this shall be corrected with this Plat.
• An easement shall be provided for the overhead electric
line along the west property line.
• Place a note on the Plat stating this is a single lot.
4-'h- Ain*»Tidf»d Plat, Lota 7_and 8,—The Reserve,—First Filing.,,
1175 Hoyote Run , Gail and Chari PS Banning/Applicants. This is
a proposal to combine two lots into one lot. Mr. Joseph
reviewed the Staff report. Applicant's representative. Bill
Van Horn, was present. There were no audience comments. It
was moved and seconded (Brown/A. Hix) Amended Plat, Lots 7 and
8, The Reserve, First Filing, 1175 Coyote Run, be favorably
recommended to the Board of Trustees, and it passed
unanimously.
4 o ainf»nded Plat, Grey Fox Estates at Cedar Ridge, First and
gpr-ond Filing. Abutting the West Boundary of Carriage Hills,.
PTr-Via-rH anH Ann Barlow/Applicants. This is a proposal to
realign street right-of-way and boundary adjustments between
two lots. Bill Van Horn, Applicant's representative, stated
agreement with Staff recommendations. Mr. Joseph recommended
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approval with conditions. There were no audience cotnments.
It was moved and seconded (Burgess/A. Hix) Amended Plat, Grey-
Fox Estates at Cedar Ridge, First and Second Filing, Abutting
the West Boundary o£ Carriage Hills, be favorably recommended
to the Board of Trustees, subject to the following conditions,
and it passed unanimously.
• The landscape entry easements shall be labeled as private
easements.
• Hatch marks shall be added to the subdivision boundaries.
• The City Limits shall be identified.
• The labeling of the 55 ft. wide utility easement over the
drive on Lot 5 shall be made more clear.
5. PUBLIC HEARING
5.a. Width of Buildings in Downtown Commercial District - as
noted previously under #2, was withdrawn at Staff's
recommendation,
CORRECTION (TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR) TQ COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
fi ■ a ■ Chapter 3 f Page 12, Paragraph__£. Director Stamey
explained the context of the paragraph was examining the sales
tax impact of the buildout of Stanley Village, and looked at
an assumption on sales tax revenues, should a large "mart"
retailer locate at Stanley Village. The word "Park" should be
changed to "Village" and "a 20,000" should be changed to "an
additional". Commissioner Thomas noted another error and in
the same paragraph; "$140,51" which should be "$140.51" It was
moved and seconded (Brown/A. Hix) the above noted corrections
be made to the Estes Valley Comprehensive Plan on Chapter 3,
Page 12, paragraph 6, which should read as follows, and it
passed unanimously.
• "If the Stanley Village area is developed for an
additional 20,000 S.F. retail, ..."
"If the mall were anchored,
of $140.51 per ..."
with average annual sales
REPORTS
None
AU.TOURN
There being no further business. Chairman Sager adjourned the
meeting at 4:04 p.m.
Roxanne S. Botic, Recording Secretary