HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Planning Commission 1997-10-21BRADFORD PUBLISHING CO.RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Planning Commission
October 21, 1997
Commission;
Attending:
Also Attending;
Chairman Al Sager, Commissioners Mark Brown,
Harriet Burgess, John Gilfillan, Alma Hix,
Edward Pohl and David Thomas
Chairman Sager, Commissioners Brown, Burgess,
Gilfillan, A. Hix, Pohl and Thomas
Trustee Liaison G. Hix, Town Attorney White,
Director Stamey, Senior Planner Joseph,
Director Linnane and Secretary Botic
Absent:None
Chairman Sager called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
1 CONSENT_AGENDA
T o of the September 16, 1997 meeting were approved
as presented.
approved.apprial Review ■.rlnnrovedb'11Tl3lQ11
0.. SPECIAL REVIEW _ T
■5 a Tlmrr\r\f-^ Review 96-1,. Lot 1,. Block
2.a^ avenue-----(AppenzelU^----David
Tracbs^—llM^—^----^^Ij^^^equ^^tto^ 1) modify
HahfiCkfir^^P^LE^i6 to 23 accommodation units, 2) reduce
BUi11ain9 n to 2 un^ts install new parking area and 4)
Building B to 2 units, ; narkincr Applicant
changes in driveway configuration and J. wP^th the
David Habecker, r-te,,ea the6 decrease ifS^ B, the net
increase i" ^ theRotrT"-ph, Senior Planner,
effect will be +1 uniu. density formula
reviewed Che staff report, Btatg requests Che
does max out the allowable f an^ that Che
finished floor elevations be sh°™ ^ ^/meeting room/parking
Applicant address the intent restricted to
as density will be ^imr1eZce(^mmenaB approval with conditions,
on-site guests. Staff recommei ouests will utilize
Mr. Habecker explained he . to the public, however,
the pub/meeting with no viaiPi!"1^^slt°estSees P Parking spaces
people may walk over rom a 3 Quests Commissioner Brown
will be labeled for on site ^ests relaCt°ed to the pub and
expressed concern with parkin^ , d which apply and gave
stated there are industry stan arking. There were no
information relatin3 E° reXede and seconded (Brown/Thomas)
audience comments. It was T„*. 1 slock 1, Lake View
the Amended Special Review ^Anoenzell) be approved with_ . mnn Bia Thompson Avenue (Appenze itS foilowing -fon^^ons, and it passed unanimously.
e The Engineer's siQnature shall bao^C^^^<^*ach building.
• Finish Floor Elevations r^Tiinas units {full kitchens)• The location of the three dwellings units ^ru
shall be identified on the Plan.
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A revised drainage plan and report shall be approved by
Public Works prior to issuance of a Building Permit.
Provide documentation of the required utility easements.
The verification of fire flows in accordance with ISO
Fire Suppression Rating Schedule shall be provided.
If the 640' sq ft meeting facility/pub is constructed,
50% shared parking credit will be given and 47 total
parking spaces shall be provided.
3 .
^ a npmgnt Plan 97-14. Tract .19, Beaver Point Second
aHH-i t-1 nn f Rim Rnad. SpQTin^-r and Megan Smith/_ApplicantS. This
is a proposal for 1) 1,500 sq ft building (assembly hall), 2)
1,300 sq ft building to (commercial and storage), 3) 1,600 sq
ft buildings (10'x20' and lO'xlO' storage units). Mike
Todd/Rocky Mountain Consultants, Applicant's representative,
stated he has reviewed staff's comments and all will be
incorporated. Mr. Joseph reviewed the staff rePort^
explaining the site will have three separate uses, and the
Applicant is currently considering other building construction
options rather than steel buildings. There have been several
meetings with staff and the Applicant; this plan will crea
less site disturbance. Applicant is requesting a credit for
one shared parking space based on the proposed mix of uses _
Staff is recommending approval with conditions. .
stated building colors will browns, greens, and creams. There
fere no audieLe comments. Acknowledging cne parking space
below maximum is reasonable for allowed shared Parking, it was
moved and seconded (Brown/Burgess) Development Plan 97-14
Tract 19, Beaver Point Second Addition, be approved with the
following conditions, and it passed unanimously.
a Revise the drainage calculations and plans as per Public
Works Memo dated October 13, 1997.
Boring under Elm Road for utilities. street
provide berming/mossrook landscaping along
frontaqe in lieu of planting. »-vi T<?n
Tfaf verification of fire flows in accordance with ISO
Fire Suppression Rating Schedule shall be provided.
q7 -11 , T.nh 21.___Ranch—Meadow
SubdiviSion._EichJLLlle_^^ JM5 a
cv-af-F reoort recommending approval r-viastaff report- t,.: 11 van Horn, questioned the
Applicant's repre^entativ , drainage facilities
necessity of the 9 the £.nal plat; Mr stamey
maintenance as ^ disCussion/olarification followed
fert ISO (Insurance Services Offi<^)
Fire Chsfd£pDl“ feaen "b^i t«h complies with Public
frf rre^st if a Memo .ated October lw3;it;--c ^
epoke with C^aef Do^n reg^ding »-tyteaccess from Lot
ifw^fafved and seconded (Burgess/Pohl, Development Plan
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97-11, Lot 21, Ranch Meadow Sxibdivision, be approved with the
following conditions, and it passed unanitnously.
• Revise the storm drainage as per Public Works Memo dated
October 13, 1997.
• Add a note stating that "Maintenance of the drainage
facilities is the responsibility of the home owners."
• The verification of fire flows in accordance with ISO
Fire Suppression Rating Schedule shall be provided.
^ . e._____r)ptvf»lopTTif*nt Plan__97 -12,----Lot—2SLr----Ranch—Meadow
g„^^H^v^ig^onr Rich wille Trust/Applicant. This is a proposal
for multi-family development consisting of nine dwelling units
total in two buildings. Bill Van Horn, Applicant's
representative, stated revisions have been made in response to
staff's recommendations. It was moved and seconded (Thomas/A.
Hix) Development Plan 97-12, Lot 30, Ranch Meadow Subdivision,
be approved with the following conditions, and it passed
unanimously.
• Revise the storm drainage as per Public Works Memo dated
• Adrbaernote stating that "Maintenance of the drainage
facilities is the responsibility of the home
• Provide a five foot wide setback to the edge of asphalt
along the north property line and relocate the off-sit
plantings into this area.
. The verification of fire flows in accordance with ISO
Fire Suppression Racing Schedule shall be provided.
cvnch^npllcant. This is a request to add a
problems. Applicant's^ ""P'jr^^rrr'ocess forTrojected
explained their informa^°nlocation of this
satellite bank usage.^ -lR5- of the current
doSo«'businLsawltrpS hoSs at
interfering with parking and other f_ planting
comply with staff =^ac°;”enaata3s0“1(t9ra^“fi)er T^eL is a
plan, sidewalk connection, asphalt, rad other
:Se?by^rpda^^~^ -h^crwi-'^;
CDOT's ,-'!ues£torW1a11m^ancae™eag-ement regarding snow
responsible for a mamcencii x-ir.r.anP explained the
removal. Public WorkS J)\re\te°trter from the Highway 7
importance of an aPPro^^ (David A. Forsythe and Gary
Construction Engineering P Director Stamey requestedJohnson) regarding drainage issues. Director scam y
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a copy of the j oint use agreement. Mr. Van Horn agreed to
provide this documentation. There were no audience comments.
Commissioner Thomas requested the traffic flow and appropriate
signage be indicated on the Plan. It was moved and seconded
(A. Hix/Burgess) Amended Development Plan 97-04, Lot 1, Saint
Vrain Center Subdivision, 501 Saint Vrain Lane, be approved
with the following conditions, and it passed unanimously.
Grading errors and omissions shall be corrected.
The planting plan shall be revised to reflect As-Built
conditions.
The walkway connection to the sidewalk along Highway 7
shall be provided.
The edge radii shown on the site plan at the access
points on Saint Vrain Lane shall be constructed as drawn.
Property line shall be surveyed and all site work
contained on site.
Drainage Plan to be approved by CDOT Highway 7
Construction Engineering Group prior to issuance of
Certificate of Occupancy.
Provide a copy of Share Access Easement.
Add "Exit Only" signage to Plan.
Indicate traffic flow on Plan.
Densely plant the proposed exit drive.
The verification of fire flows in accordance with ISO
Fire Suppression Rating Schedule shall be provided.
ngvei<~>pTn*»nt-. Plan 97-13.—Lot—1,—Block—4,——River
Fan River Road and David Drive, Jim Rodgera_and
Parity 1 ina /Applicantfl. This is a proposal for 21
commercial accommodation units and a manager's residence.
Applicant's representative, Ross Stephen, reviewed t e
proposal explaining they have met with UTSD regarding a new
sewer line. Mr. Joseph reviewed the staff report stating
staff's expectation is to retain trees as shown. A copy ot
memo given to Applicant regarding the proposed conference
building was included in the staff report and this note has
been added to the Plan. Mr. Joseph also requested a n°te to
be added to the development plan sheet explaining t e asis
for the flood plain formation as shown; any work on the river
banks involving placement of fill or rip rap will require a
Town Flood Plain Permit and Corps of Engineers Permit. Staff
recommends approval with conditions. Commissioner Brown
questioned what portion of the conference building ^
meeting space and explained why additional parking places will
br'e^irL and how the standard would apply to this request
Discussion continued regarding build-out, parking
problems/spill-out on highway R-O-W and restricting cof^r^^ce
center usage. Staff stated additional parking cou1^ be
condition of approval or plan could be aPProve<J
conference building and Applicant could return
with that revision and amendment. Applicant Randy Collins
questioned why additional parking was needed and Cormissione
Brown responded. Mr. Collins stated he hadn't ^onsl^era^
nroblem and if it should arise, he would address it at that
time, commissioner Pohl noted additionfAPaf^^^ta^3t^^neto
will require CDOT approval and suggested Applicant return
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the November meeting with a revised plan. Mr. Stephen stated
Applicant will agree with the 504 sq ft building limit and 2
additional parking places will be found. Commissioner A. Hix
questioned if a wetlands study has been completed. Mr.
Stephen stated when walking the site no wetlands have been
identified. Mr. Joseph explained the staff's expectation to
have a qualified consultant make a determination.
Commissioner Thomas questioned the access to the conference
building; Mr. Stephen responded stating a foot bridge hasn't
been engineered yet due to costs and Applicant is open to bike
easement discussion. Mr. Joseph stated the plan is unusual as
it does not indicate access to the building for foot or car
traffic, plan may have not been given enough consideration and
suggested the Commissioners may want to remove the conference
building from their decision and Applicant may return with
additional information at a future time. Chairman Sager
reviewed Commissioner options. Commissioner Brown stated
there are unresolved issues and he would prefer to continue
this request for a consolidated plan so an overall view could
be considered. Commissioner Gilfillan also supported
continuing this item, requesting a more definitive plan with
regards to parking, access, size and use of conference
building. Applicant Collins stated since the Commissioners
were only concerned with wetland issues, he requested approval
for the units. Commissioner A. Hix stated she did not favor
continuing this request. Commissioner Thomas questioned the
nature of the discrepancy regarding the river channel and Mr.
Joseph responded. As there are unresolved issues (size of
conference building, use, and related parking and access,
wetlands identification), it was moved and seconded
(Brown/Gilfillan) Development Plan 97-13, Lot 13, Lot 1, Block
4, Fall River Estates, be continued to the November 18, 1997
meeting so that a definitive plan could be reviewed, and it
passed with the following voting "Yes": Commissioners Brown,
Gilfillan, Pohl and Thomas; those voting "No": Commissioners
Burgess, A. Hix and Sager.
Commissioner Gilfillan was excused from the meeting at 4:10
p.m. due to a prior commitment.
•ngtvAlQpmtant plan 97-15 fi. ATTip»ndpH Plat of Lot 6A,.
gtar.ntiH Amended—Plat—Pme
T?-iTTo-r North of RiversjLdp Drive on Pine Riv.er
T.anta, ar»d Anthonv Schiaffo/App11 cants. This is
a proposal for a 4,000 sq ft commercial building (first floor
- 3,300 sq ft and second floor 700 sq ft). Applicant s
representative, Ross Stephen, explained the request Mr
Joseph reviewed the staff report, recommending approval with
conditions including the ISO requirement. Mr. Stephen stated
most of staff's request have been completed and a wetlands
permit has been applied for. Commissioners rec^ested outside
storage have a 6' fence, with no storage items higher than ,
no other storage anywhere on the site and landscape plan a
corrections to be completed. There were no audience comments.
It was moved and seconded (Thomas/A. Hix) Development Plan 97-
15 Lot 6, Amended Plat of Lot 6A, Amended Plat of Lots 6,7,
^d 8, Second Amended Plat Pine River Subdivision, be approved
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with the following conditions, and it passed unanimously with
one absent.
• A note shall be added to the Plan stating "The owners of
Lot 6 shall be responsible for maintenance of the
drainage facilities" and the owners obtain a drainage
easement for the discharge of the culvert across Lot 7.
• The owner's and lienholder's statement shall be added to
the Plan sheet.
• Necessary permits from the Army Corps of Engineers shall
be obtained prior to issuance of a building permit.
• The finished floor elevation shall be raised two feet
above the 100 year Flood elevation,
• Fence surrounding storage area shall be 6', stored items
shall not be higher than 6' and there will be no storage
anywhere else on the site.
• The verification of fire flows in accordance with ISO
Fire Suppression Rating Schedule shall be provided.
^ g Development Finn 97-16, Lot 2,.TFall.-7^
^a^Cc, Trrii -River Road nnd Fish Hatchery Road, Craig/Kee^
oMver/In^licanta. This is a proposalfor
14 commercial accommodation units (two bedrooms/full kitchen)
and a manager's residence/off ice and a private ®
residence Due to Chairman Sager also being on the Board o
M?usSent, he declared a conflict of interest, he passed the
gavel to Vice-Chairman Pohl. Applicant's representative, Ross
ItlSen explained the proposal (duplex configuration) which
wufha^e a new sewer line. Ibe Army Corps of Engineers will
be consulted and a permit applied for f. naPP11Caab^^ard
Joseoh reviewed the staff report, explaining a Board of
Adiustment variance is required, hike and bike easements will
be dd”d He also fnoted thi r^p^^SnTof Pr;aaliried
“t?Lds consultaf and « rHhrrlvfr
added to the plan. . ^ „ -i- win be needed Director
ehannei, a TownaR1ood c^--jrbet nece1ssaeryneforil dwelling
iSlrdThel^plic^^^^^^^^^^
Led to be phased in. There were no audience conme .
was moved and seconded (Brown/Burgess) Development Pl^ SJ 16,
I o 4 Fall River Estates, be approved with the
Lot 2, Block V. and it passed unanimously with onefollowing conditions, ana lu pct&ot=«-i
abstention.
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interaction of Fish Hatchery Road and Fall Road. It
shall be the developer's responsibility “
analysis and review the results with CDOT prior
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requesting a building permit.
The verification of fire flows in accordance with ISO
Fire Suppression Rating Schedule shall be provided.
The south side of the southerly parking lot shall be
planted to provide the required screening along the
street line.
A wetlands survey will be completed.
Any work on the river banks involving placement of
or rip rap will require a Town Flood Plain Work Pemit
and Army Corps of Engineers permit shall be obtained
prior to issuance of a building permit.
• Obtain a variance from the Board of Adjustment for the
parking location.
Chairman Sager resumed his place on the Commission.
4 preliminary plat^ L T on T-n ^ PTnflnect MountamA o -iminarv—Elativ—Lot—
three lots. APP1\C-^;^in^eP/a:rneaw1i:t Til allow f0;
^nttrct^: aP:dOP?n:y pltaarntSo introduce only Sinf e
homes, the existing residence will access vra thethexrstxng
driveway located in Peck Lane peck for Lot 3. Mr.
ZtTTepolt and reco^nended approval with
conditions and reviewed ^^^-“"h^rhydrant
Stephen will *°llow;uPJ1at^eaChieR^dP e^e comments were heard
has been located near t r^-rrie Mr Anderson hasfrom Art Anderson, 160 “anley Circle^.^ thaC to
historically used a trail across reauested no there be no
be Fr°tected £o wildlife migration. Attorneyperimeter fencing to aiio through the court
white stated the trail may beAs^eCfsniZa;d_rt07r°Uate for the
system. findZn® ts6 aiT'^eguirements, it was moved and
neighborhood and meets piat Lot 30, Little
seconded (A. Hix/Brown) Pre :J“:L d witll the following
Prospect Mountain Subdivision, be approved with
conditions, and it passed unanimously.
, Clearly identify the easement along the east property
line- . i.0 T.ots 1 & 2 to the. Add a note which --«-t^nladCecS^r“e ““e.
shared access point on Stanley tiro
. provide a written acc;SL6ota93re™esnatnltar^; Lwer prior to
. Require connection of Lot 3 to s“ltary
Town Board aPpr°^al o£ C 6 F £nal plaC that use shall be
• A note to be added to t i:L resultant lots.
restricted to ffireYflows in accordance with ISO
• FireVSuppression Rating Schedule shall be provided.
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Gulch Road,_1240 Devil's Gulch Road,_Dorothy...5^_and George
Gibbs/Applicants. Mr. and Mrs. Gibbs were in attendance and
Mr. Gibbs explained Dorothy C. Scott (Mrs. Gibbs' mother)
donated this easement October 13, 1959 with the intent for
this to be a public road which has not been done. Their
property contains a meadow and elk migration route. The Gibbs
will grant an easement to Mrs. Lober (1230 Devil's Gulch
Road)and Silver Lane Stables with their agreement for
appropriate trail maintenance. They wish to protect their
privacy, land and trees. Louise Lindsey, representing the
Estes Valley Trails Committee, encouraged public use of this
multi-purpose trail and expressed appreciation to the
Commissioners for preservation of the Prospect Mountain trail.
Bus Schageman, representing Frank and Jeff Schageman,
expressed his interest in open space, elk preservation and
support for the Gibbs. Commissioner Thomas commended Mrs.
Scott's gift to the county and the Gibbs for maintaining the
easement and efforts with the stables in maintaining the
bridle path easement. The County should consider trail
maintenance. It was moved and seconded (Thomas/Brown) the
Gibbs Easement Vacation 19-05-72; 772 North lane, that Staff
be directed to advise Larimer County the Planning Commission
finds this request acceptable and recommends approval of the
following, and it passed unanimously.
• The County vacate the public road easement and vehicular
portion of the road and retain a non-motorized public
access easement.
• The County provide for the Town water line easement.
5. AD.TDTTRW
There being no further business. Chairman Sager adjourned the
meeting at 5:32 p.m.
Roxanne S. Botic, Recording Secretary