HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Planning Commission 1996-08-20BRADFORD PUBLISHING CO.RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Planning Commission
August 20, 1996
Commission;
Attending:
Also Attending;
Chairman Al Sager, Commissioners Mark Brown,
Harriet Burgess, John Gilfillan, Alma Hix,
Edward Pohl, and David Thomas
Chaiman Sager, Commissioners Brown, Burgess,
Gilfillan, Pohl, Thomas
Director Stamey, Senior Planner Joseph,
Attorney White, Assistant Town Administrator
Widmer, EPURA Director Anderson, Secretary
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Trustee Liaison George Hix, Commissioner A.
Hix
Absent:
Chairman Sager called the meeting to order at 9:30 a.m.
1. MINUTES
presented*3^ the July 16, 1996 meeting were approved as
2. REZONINC
^0tS ■1~4f J~'50f 7B ~ 16Bf Buenna Vista Terrace Sub. . Lots
1 and 2, Schuster Sub., Lots 1 and 2 Hess Sub..
v:ista Terrace Sub. Property Owners/Applicant. t^- Lrao
ffloved and seconded (Brown/Burgess) Lots 1-4. 7-50 7n -
1_6B, Buenna Vista Terrace Sub., Loti 1 anH 7
gub. , Lots 1 and 2 Hess Sub, be continued to the
September 17, 1996 meeting, and it passed unanimously.
3- SPECIAL REVIEW
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Plan shonlrtah11:31:7 stations and stated the Development
bu;£tsKlfia?a?“? the conununity will outweigh any Adverse
regarding plans for hike and bike paths along the
thfeM S.Pr0?,‘?Sed ■ln -the Master Plan, Mr. widmer respondedthJs aSreear tf6" t-he5.e should be a bike K?S In
Du.e to the existing motel design east andrSStv,°fi,thlS ?lte' the design would probably5 be next to
the highway with various loops to the rivert
^^LKocheva5, APPiicant's representative, responded to
aff comments. He stated this proposal does utilize the
existing dpveway to the north and with increased traffic
will require review by CDOT which is currently in
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process. CDOT will make recommendations for any highway
approaches and improvements which must be accommodated or
the access will not be used. The intersection cannot be
utilized without CDOT approval. Applicant is considering
widening and turning the bridge to allow easier and safer
access for longer vehicles. This action will not remove
additional trees in that area. The Plan does not show a
water and sanitary station as each site is proposed to
have individual water and sewer hookups. Some lighting
will be added in addition to current lighting which will
be relocated. Current light poles are an antiquated
design and light fixtures can be modified to be a
downcast, non-glaring, shoe box type of light. Mr.
Kochevar emphasized the considerable amount of vegetation
on the site which will be preserved, noting Lot 59A, Fall
River Addition, is not well buffered, stating that it
could be improved with additional vegetation adjacent to
the river which they are willing to do. Regarding the
R.M.N.P.'s comments on the deciduous trees versus
conifers, the Applicant has recognized this and believes
the existing 45 conifer trees add a good year round
screen and would be willing to add additional trees if
requested. Mr. Kochevar noted concurrence with Public
Works comments that individual spaces are considered
commercial accommodation units for the purpose of
determining the water tap fee. Mr. Kochevar agreed with
Public Works recommendations that the pavilion and
laundry facility water tap fees will be based on fixture
units and backflow preventers be provided for each RV
hookup and after the master meter. Mr. Kochevar stated
utility easements would be provided in accordance with
the Light and Power Department request and the proposed
road system would be private. Dialogue has begun with
the Estes Park Sanitation District and Applicant is in
agreement with their recommendations and will provide
construction drawings.
response to Commissioner Brown's questions on
screening and pruning of trees on Spaces 7, 8, 9 and 10,
Mr. Kochevar stated there would be adequate access
between the trees on Space 7 and pruning would be
necessary. Mr. Kochevar stated Space 9 would be a
place to park an RV and he stated pruning would
need to be done on most of the eastern spaces near the
setback noting most of the spaces have a depth of 65'.
No vegetation would be changed beyond the 75' setback.
Commissioner Gilfillan questioned anticipated tree
removal on Spaces 9 through 12 and Space 14. Mr.
Kochevar stated at least one tree would be removed on
Space 9; he did not anticipate any tree removal on Space
14 with pruning to approximately 12•.
In response to Commissioner Thomas' questions, Mr.
Kochevar stated there was no drawing of the cross section
of the cut on the south part of the development and
stated the maximum height of the retaining wall would be
approximately 6' and maximvim cut in that area would be 4'
if building was done all the way back to the retainincr wall. ^
Correspondence received via mail and fax was read by Mr.
Widmer. Correspondence opposing the Special Review was
received from the following: Del Lineman, P.o. Box
81407, Lincoln, Nebraska; Seymour S. Feder, 2745 N.W. 42
Avenue, Coconut Creek, Florida; Sally & Rick Brent, 1401
West 29 Street, Loveland, Colorado; Dean and Ginger
Harris, 2803 Fall River Road, Estes Park; A. Durand Jones
of the United States Department of the Interior/Rocky
Mountain National Park, Estes Park, Colorado and Jim
Shultz of Deer Crest, 1200 Fall River Road, Estes Park.
As Mr. Worley was in the audience and could add comments
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later in the meeting, Mr. Widmer also read the last few
paragraphs of a six page appraisal letter from Maurice C.
Worley of the Professional Appraisal Services, Inc., P.O.
Box 4529, Estes Park, Colorado.
No audience comments were given in support of the
project.
Jim Martel, 222 W. Magnolia, Ft. Collins, Colorado
addressed the Commission. He is an attorney representing
Jan Felsman - owner of Lot 59A, Mr. and Mrs. Coffman -
Streamside owners and Mr. and Mrs. Schultz - Deer Crest
owners. He requested denial stating in 1978 the Town
Board approved a Lot split conditionally upon Parcel B
being combined to Tract 61 and 62 owned by Mr. Kane. In
a letter to the Town Board, Mr. Kane indicated if Parcel
A would be sold. Parcel B would become part of his
property to the west and he intended to expand his
present facilities in the form of tennis courts on Parcel
B. A Lot Division Covenant was recorded on August 22,
1978. Mr. Martel distributed copies of the documents to
the Planning Commission. Mr. Martel stated this proposal
should be submitted as a Subdivision request first and be
subdivided if this is part of Lot 61 and 62. It should
then be analyzed by the Planning Staff as the density
calculations would be different regarding three principal
uses on one lot with density allocations to the
restaurant and motel and the density to this development
all existing on one lot. The zoning regulations that
apply to RV Parks require that all internal streets be
20' wide and the proposed bridge is 15'. Mr. Martel
believes the bridge needs to be 20 feet wide or a
variance obtained from the Board of Adjustment. He
expressed concerns with noise beyond the property and did
not believe this proposal satisfies the requirements of
the Special Review Ordinance. He requested the
Commission's attention to the Ordinance section stating
"the application shall be approved only if the Board of
Trustees make a written determination that the proposal' s
benefits to the Town will outweigh any adverse effect to
the Town or the vicinity". He stated the Developer has
not provided any evidence this will benefit the community
economically. Other concerns expressed by Mr. Martell
were compatibility with nearby land uses, environmental
impact, loss of trees, business design, visual intrusion,
problems with pets and motorcycles. He requested the
Planning Commission recommend denial to the Board of
Trustees.
Chairman Sager asked Mr. Martel if he and his clients
have seen and read the Statement of Intent. Mr. Martel
stated in the affirmative.
Susan Coffman, 1260 Fall River Road, current owner of
Streamside Cottages stated she is against the project for
the following reasons: 1) the RV park would be out of
character, 2) incompatibility of RV travelers lifestyle
with motel/hotel guests, 3) antagonism between RV
travelers and motel/hotel customers, 4) noise/pollution,
5) pet problems, 6) around the clock arrivals, 7) visual
impact, 8) vegetation destruction, 9) litter, 10)
possibility of expansion from proposed 17 spaces to 64
spaces. Mrs. Coffman wanted to know how many trees would
be removed. She doesn't believe this project will meet
community needs or be an enhancement and stated it would
be at odds with the Town's Master Plan and felt this
would be a gross injustice to allow spot zoning.
Chairman Sager requested Mrs. Coffman recognize the
proposal is for 17 spaces and 64 spaces is not a
possibility. Mrs. Coffman noted the number 64 came from
Mr. Widmer and realizes the proposal is for 17 spaces.
Mr. Widmer noted the number 64 did come from him as Ms.
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Felsman requested a calculation on the entire site. He
stated the site is 13.2 acres, with the area from the
river up the mountain having a slope of 38%. Mr. Widmer
stated Mr. Kane would be able to return to the Commission
requesting an additional number of sites which would
require another Special Review and Town Board approval.
Jan Felsman expressed her opposition to this project.
She was a developer of Streamside and is still the
mortgage holder of that property and owns Lot 59A to the
north. She reviewed her 10 year history with the area,
and expressed her concern with 1) lack of controls with
the RV proposal, 2) removal of trees, 3) possibility of
continued build-out, 4) compatibility issues of RV/motel
users, 5) vegetation, 6) noise, 7) environmental and
visual impact. She requested the Commission remember
what was said at the Fall River Workshops: "residential
scale development of a low density consistent with
present development not altering the existing character."
She stated additional camp sites became available in 1996
when the Blue Arrow Campground became a private non
membership campground.
Assistant Town Administrator Widmer clarified his
calculation noting 64 units was for the entire site of
13.2 acres. The developable area of approximately 2.88
acres would have a theoretical number of 31 units which
could be allowed.
Debi Coleman stated she sells and lists real estate in
Estes Park. She has observed a reluctance for purchases
near RV sites and believes this proposal will negatively
affect property values to adjacent owners and owners
along the Fall River Corridor.
Attorney White clarified that the Comprehensive Plan is
the future Comprehensive Plan, it has not been adopted
and this Commission will not take into consideration the
future Comprehensive Plan as it has no legal standing.
John Spahnle, 1900 Fall River Road, recently purchased
Boulder Brook. He expressed concerns with compatibility
of the project in the Corridor and with his guests and
devaluation of his property.
Maurice Worley, Colorado State Certified General
Appraiser, reported he was speaking for Jan Felsman, the
Coffmans and Shultzs and the impact of this proposal on
their financial interests. Mr. Worley stated he
appraised the Deer Crest Chalet property in 1992 and
observed a well constructed, maintained, above average
operated facility with a streamside setting. He stated
the majority of people are living in the Estes Valley by
choice, not by necessity and requested denial of the
proposed development plan.
Lois Rohrbaugh, 701 Castle Mountain Road, introduced her
husband Darold noting they have been residents since 1964
and have built five hospitality lodgings in Estes Park.
They have experience as managers of two RV Parks in
Arizona and have observed the following problems with RV
Parks: diesel pollution, late arrivals/early departures,
noise, emptying of holding tanks, and space needed for
dog runs. In addition to these concerns, Mr. and Mrs.
Rohrbaugh are against the proposed RV Park for the
following reasons: 1) removal of 20-40 spruce trees, 2)
extra vehicles, possibility of late arrivals parking
along the highway, 3) RV guests hiking on private
property, 4) increased levels of sewage during peak
season, 5) pollution and fiimes from grills, 6)
compatibility with area.
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A1 Tallakson, 1070 Crestview Court, a former owner of
Riverview Pines Motel and property owner on the north
side of Fall River, is opposed to the proposal. Mr.
Tallakson previously lived in an RV Park and noted
differences between RV people and motel guests. Mr.
Tallakson submitted and paraphrased a letter from his
neighbors, Stephen and Debora Shaw, owners of 4 Seasons
Inn. They are opposed and are concerned with the
proposal. Mr. Tallakson also expressed concerns with the
wetlands and Federal wetland regulations.
Lucille Younglund, 2801 Fall River Road, and her husband
Quentin have been in the accommodation business for years
and believe this proposal would be detrimental to
property owners. Two years ago she and her husband made
an offer on Nicky's condos and Jan Felsman's lot which
was refused by both parties; her interest has changed
with this proposal.
Mr. Kochevar had no rebuttal comments and Chairman Sager
closed the Public Hearing and asked the Commission for
their questions or comments.
Attorney White stated it appears Mr. Kane did comply with
the Town Board requirements in 1978 and placed a covenant
on the Lots to incorporate them. He does not believe
that has any impact on the present proposal. Mr. White
stated if this is considered one lot, the 75' setback on
the west side would not be appropriate, which would allow
greater development. By considering the total property
owned by Mr. Kane in all of the lots, he would not be
over permitted density.
Commissioner Thomas asked Mr. Kochevar if a study has
been done on this site regarding the access pathways for
wildlife. Mr. Kochevar responded in the negative and
stated he has not been on the site enough and/or looking
for a pathway to say it isn't there and recognized there
are going to be elk and deer in that area. Commissioner
Thomas asked if Mr. Kochevar or his client have
considered doing a study comparing the ecosystem along
Fall River and Mr. Kochevar responded they have not. In
response to Commissioner Thomas' questions, Mr. Kochevar
explained the RV Park season would be some time in April
almost through Christmas and there would no storage of
vehicles. Mr. Thomas noted the plan calls for a check
in building, restrooms and laundry and asked if there is
a place on the site for a resident manager. Mr. Kochevar
stated there was not and management would be from the
motel operation and at times reservations would be
handled from the motel. Mr. Kochevar stated they did not
believe on-site management/continuous supervision would
be necessary.
Chairman Sager reminded the Planning Commission to
recognize the requirements of Special Review and allow
that to be a portion and justification of the motion
whether it be for approval or denial.
Commissioner Brown expressed his concerns regarding the
apparent significant pruning which would be done on
established vegetation and asked Mr. Widmer if that could
be adequately managed. Mr. Widmer stated screening to the
east could be improved with berms or vegetation and could
also be required along the north. Mr. Widmer suggested
the Commission specify what screening height is desired
and the Developer and Town Staff could work out the
details of a berm, vegetation, fence or combination and
submit that to the Town Board. Mr. Brown expressed his
concerns with trees and the asphalt and asked Mr. Widmer
to comment. Mr. Widmer stated this is a valid concern to
raise and stressed all of the trees are interior to the
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site and in most cases are not part of the screening. He
stated the risk is to the Developer, which could damage
his amenities. The Developer is focusing efforts to
minimize tree loss. Commissioner Brown questioned the
cut that would be needed and the possibility of 30-40
trees being removed. Mr. Widmer responded that with Mr.
Kochevar's approach to look at each site and do
individual excavations, this number would be smaller.
Commissioner Brown questioned if the topography lines on
the plans are indicative of what will occur when
construction is done. Mr. Kochevar concurred. He stated
there are not 30 trees in that area and not all existing
trees are shown on the plan, only large trees with a 10"
and larger diameter. Mr. Kochevar believes 10 trees are
at risk of being removed on Spaces 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. Mr.
Kochevar stated trees on the front, near the street of
Spaces 5, 6, 7, 8 would probably be removed and agreed
with Mr. Brown that they are not shown on the Plan as
being removed. Commissioner Brown expressed his concern
in this response and he was concerned with understanding
what vegetation will remain. Chairman Sager stated "the
Planning Commission reviews the application and shall
report to the Board of Trustees regarding each of the
considerations in subsection F. of this section,
subdivision 1-5" so a motion was needed to consider all
items 1 -5 either in the affirmative or in the denial.
Commissioner Brown stated that in his opinion, the
Commission did not receive adequate information as to
whether the proposal would comply with all of the
criteria, and asked if it was possible to continue this
Application until next month, asking for additional
information. Chairman Sager stated that according to the
Ordinance the Planning Commission has 35 days to consider
the proposal and Attorney White concurred. Commissioner
Brown stated the reason for Special Review is to consider
impacts of specified uses. The Commission is charged
with balancing the rights of individual land owners and
reasonable use of their property and surrounding land
owners in the larger community as well as visitors. He
could find very little distinction between accommodation
and RV uses to negate compatibility, the site lends
itself to RV use as well as any in the valley from the
uses that surround it including the access, road
infrastructure, utilities, screening and design elements.
Site design is to be considered and stated several
elements may be improved to ensure the maximum reasonable
mitigation for off-site impacts. He believes additional
information is needed regarding the trees and has
concerns with the lighting and elimination of interior
trees. He believes the cut on the south side is within
the test for reasonableness of development. The
screening from deciduous trees in the off season would be
appropriate for what the Applicant has proposed. He
stated the Applicant should return with a plan to widen
the bridge to 20' to ensure safety.
Chairman Sager requested a motion be made; Commissioner
Brown stated he was not prepared to make a motion to deny
or accept the proposal because he didn't have enough
information to make a valid decision.
It was moved and seconded (Brown/Sager) Special Review
96-5. Nicky's RV Resort. Tract 59B. be continued until
September 17, 1996 so that additional information may be
received. Those voting "Yes", Commissioners Sager, Brown,
Pohl; those voting "No" Commissioners Burgess, Gilfillan,
Thomas, resulting in a tie vote. Attorney White stated
the proposal would be forwarded to Town Board without a
recommendation and urged the Commission to reconsider.
Commissioner Thomas stated he believed sufficient
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information had been received and noted Staff stated that
all existing land uses in the vicinity are nightly
accommodations and that an RV Park is not out of
character with these uses. He conceded this is a point
of opinion; his opinion is that an RV Park is out of
character with these particular uses that are in the
neighborhood at this time. Another point under
suitability is the bridge; he concurred that the
Commission needed to consider a wider bridge. His
experience has been that many of the people who drive RVs
have little or no experience and no special licensing to
operate these vehicles, and stated many people acquire
the vehicles after a lifetime of driving a car and many
have impaired driving ability before driving an RV, thus
the wider the bridge the better. Continuing under
suitability, item c. of the Staff report which stated no
riparian impact is proposed and believed this statement
was made without any apparent study being made of the
area and the Applicant told Mr. Thomas he has made no
study. The second item under Special Review is building
and site design and how well they avoid visual, noise or
other intrusion into adjacent premises. Staff stated
the natural noise from Fall River should provide a buffer
and Mr. Thomas disagreed stating that natural noise from
Fall River nine months of the year would not provide any
kind of sound buffer for the neighborhood. The Staff
report also stated concentrating the recreational
activities in the center of the loop would help reduce
noise. Mr. Thomas stated that just because there is a
picnic shelter or facility in the loop does not mean that
is where the recreational activities are going to be
centered. He concurred with Ms. Felsman who earlier
pointed out that when children arrive at a campsite, the
first thing they are going to do is go to the river or
into the woods and disagrees with the Staff statement.
Under point 3 of Special Review, regarding the social,
economic or community needs which are served by the
proposal, the Staff report refers to the Applicant's
statement of Intent. The Applicant has stated the
established character of the neighborhood for
accommodating the tourists is the goal of this project
and because Mr. Thomas disagreed with the first statement
about an RV Park being out of character with these uses.
The Applicant stated that a RV Park in this area is not
being provided; Mr. Thomas suggested looking at the
entire Fall River neighborhood as a whole as was done in
the comprehensive planning, when the whole valley was
divided into neighborhoods and noted this neighborhood
extends all the way to the R.M.N.P. boundary and there is
already a commercial campground on the west end of this
Corridor. The Applicant also stated this site and this
business is most appropriate in both location and need;
Commissioner Thomas finds it difficult to agree with the
statement due to the nvimber of commercial and federal
campgrounds in the area. Commissioner Thomas disagrees
with Staff comments which stated this development is
consistent with district objectives. Commissioner Thomas
neither heard nor viewed reports from either the
proponent or Staff related to any historic resources that
may be impacted. For these reasons Commissioner Thomas
moved the Planning Commission recommend denial of the
Special Review 96-5.
Commissioner Brown questioned Staff's comment of "no
riparian impact is proposed" and asked if a study was
required. Mr. Widmer stated it was not a requirement
under Zoning and he made his statement based on what the
Development Plan indicates. Regarding historic
resources, Mr. Widmer was not aware of any resources that
are immediately adjacent or on this site which would be
impacted by this proposal. Mr. Widmer noted that some of
these items are traditionally matters of judgement and as
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Commissioners it is their right to disagree with Staff's
conclusions. Mr. Widmer addressed his comments regarding
the consistency with district objectives, and stated he
would not argue that this would enhance the qualities of
the streams, however, he would argue that the Developer
has gone a long way towards integrating and using the
natural assets of the area and that is why he made the
judgement he did. Commissioner Brown stated in this case
he cannot concur with Mr. Thomas' evaluation of the
suitability and compatibility as far as the property
value declining. It may decline slightly, but felt that
perhaps the adjoining property owners have had an
inordinate landfall in value gained over the years
because they have been making tacit use of an undeveloped
site that they weren't entitled to. Overall, this was a
close call, he could not recommend denial as he did not
think the case has been sufficiently proven and couldn't
recommend approval at this point either.
Commissioner Burgess stated a major point had not been
addressed. As Planning Commissioners, they are to listen
to the people; the people present very definitely were
saying no, and not only neighbors spoke - people up and
down the Fall River and people in Town are opposed. She
recalled the neighborhood workshops and Fall River
residents had good attendance and they were very explicit
stating they wanted limited and upgraded development.
Commissioner Burgess reminded the Commission when Boulder
Brook was approved, the Commission's comments were "it
was a lovely upgraded development and the type of thing
we wanted on Fall River". She stated it is the
Commission's responsibility to listen to the public.
Chairman Sager asked Commissioner Burgess to remember
this was not a popularity poll. Chairman Burgess stated
she did not believe this is popularity, it is very dear
to their hearts and part of their economic situation.
Commissioner Gilfillan commented it was the Commission's
responsibility to review Special Review applications and
act accordingly. He supported denial on this request
because he didn't believe there was suitability and has
an honest difference of opinion with Commissioner Brown.
The evidence offered by the opponents forms a basis for
denial on the suitability issue on l.a. and on 2.a. the
building and site design and how well they avoid noise,
and other intrusion into adjacent premises or departure
from the established character of the vicinity which
Commissioner Burgess earlier emphasized. Regarding the
economic needs of the community. Commissioner Gilfillan
believes there is a strong difference between what the
Applicant has stated and what other evidence indicates in
terms of whether or not there is a need for an RV Park at
this point in time and in this location. For these
reasons he would concur with denial.
Commissioner Pohl pointed out that if this recommendation
of denial is forwarded to the Town Board, the Applicant
still has the right to appeal this decision to the Town
Board.
Commissioner Brown wanted to clarify the reason for his
vote and he was not prepared to vote with the current
information.
It was moved and seconded (Thomas/Burgess) denial of
Special Review 96—5, Nicky's RV Resort, be recommended to
the Board of Trustees and it passed with the following
votes. Those voting "Yes", Commissioners Sager, Burgess,
Gilfillan, Pohl, Thomas. Those voting "No", Commissioner
Brown.
Chairman Sager called for a seven minute recess stating
the meeting would reconvene at 12:20. The meeting
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resvimed at 12:20 and Director Stamey resumed his place on
the panel.
4.DEVELOPMENT PLAN
4.a. Development Plan 96-11. Municipal Parking Lot, Block 11,
Town of Estes Park, 170 MacGregor Avenue. Town of Estes
Park/Applicant. Art Anderson, Executive Director/EPURA
reviewed the Statement of Intent and Staff report, noting
the project is major reconstruction and reconfiguration.
The current parking lot is a north-south orientation and
the proposal would change it to an east-west orientation
with increased parking spaces. The parking lot has been
failing for a number of years due to existing soil
conditions. A geo-technical fabric was used 9 years ago
in front of the Library and has not 'alligatored' and is
evidence that this fabric will be effective long term.
The parking spaces along Elkhorn Avenue will remain the
same. The first island after the street will be heavily
landscaped and lighting is being designed by the Town
consultant.
The Library had parking concerns and 9 spaces are being
designated for their use. A space will be reserved by the
book-drop for their Outreach employee. The two entry
points will be widened to accommodate the flow of
traffic.
The Schedule is as follows: bids on August 23, 1996, the
contract to be awarded September 11, 1996 with
construction to follow and the date of completion on
April 30, 1997. The parking lot will be broken into
phases. Van Horn Engineering and Surveying will work with
the contractor to keep the parking lot open.
Mr. Anderson stated they will relocate as many trees as
possible. Mr. Joseph, Senior Planner, explained they
will begin spading the trees marked for relocation and
based on the initial experience, judgements will be made
accordingly.
Proposed turning radius and traffic flow in the northwest
corner is similar to what is currently available. Mr.
Van Horn, Engineer for the project, stated a typical
traveled highway is 24' and this will be 26' which will
not allow high speed movements and will be technically
adequate in terms of the state highway standards and
turning templates.
Commissioner Thomas noted Commissioner Pohl introduced an
idea in the Study Session for restrooms and a shelter in
the vicinity along Black Canyon Creek. Improved restroom
signage is one option, and Mr. Thomas believes some type
of shelter in this area would be appropriate. Mr. Van
Horn said this was not part of the original plan,
however, there would be space available for a shelter.
Commissioner Pohl stated he did not bring his suggestion
to this meeting as he felt his concern was addressed in
the Study Session and he would submit his suggestion to
Mr. Anderson. Mr. Anderson stated this suggestion would
be taken into consideration with the design for
landscaping.
Chairman Sager requested clarification on the addition of
an additional book drop and Mr. Anderson noted a pad
could be added and called attention to the 15 minute
parking spaces which will be available by the current
book drop. Chairman Sager noted the Town regulation
17.24.020 requires one bicycle rack per 20 parking
spaces. Mr. Anderson stated there will be a place for
the appropriate number of bicycle racks. Chairman Sager
complimented the project with appreciation for the
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flexibility to accommodate concerns and suggestions.
Judy Hoxey, Director of the Estes Valley Library District
stated the Library Board and Staff are pleased with the
parking lot redesign. The Library has been involved in
the process and has spoken with Mr. Joseph, Mr. Anderson
and Mr. Van Horn. During this meeting she has heard Mr.
Anderson address some of her concerns. The Library Board
has expressed a serious concern regarding the safety for
children with the two-way lane of traffic in front of the
Library entrance and wanted their concern to be recorded.
The Library Board also requested an increase from 9
designated spaces to 12 in accordance with the overall
increase of spaces. Patrons and Volunteers complain, and
the Library does open one hour earlier in the summer to
help, however, they would like an additional three
spaces. She explained that over $3,000 was spent on the
book drop and the room where books enter from the book
drop. The room was specially fire proofed and they feel
the usage will be greatly diminished with the 15 minute
parking spaces in front of the drop. She also noted the
trash enclosure is in that area and there are delivery
trucks daily and would like to be assured sufficient
space will be available. She was pleased the space would
be retained for their Outreach person.
Mr. Anderson explained the traffic circulation noting the
island would restrict the flow in front of the Library
and efforts have been made to make this area as safe as
possible. Sixty one parking spaces are available which
allows for a person to walk to the Library without
crossing a traffic lane. A one way circulation in front
of the Library would have resulted in the loss of parking
spaces and the project tried to optimize the parking lot
uses. There will be a designated space for the Outreach
employee, 4 additional spaces labeled as 15 minute
parking places and delivery trucks will park in the drive
lines. He did time a driver recently and found the
delivery was done in less than 3 minutes and did not
believe this will negatively affect the traffic flow.
Mr. Anderson stated at the present time there is no ramp
for the trash enclosure, with the new plan one will be
available.
Ms. Hoxey continued with concerns for a safe and
convenient entry to the Library by handicap persons and
had suggested an additional ramp. Mr. Anderson noted a
standard ramp would be installed and noted that currently
a standard ramp is not available. Ms. Hoxey reiterated
safety is the Library's major concern with patron
convenience their second concern. She expects many
complaints with the no left hand turn onto Elkhorn no
longer being possible.
Requesting the previous comments and suggestions be
recognized it was moved and seconded (Brown/Burgess) that
Development Plan #96-11 be approved with the following
condition and it passed unanimously.
• Bicycle racks be installed in accordance with
Municipal Code.
5. REPORTS
There were no reports at this time.
There being no further business. Chairman Sager adjourned the
meeting at 12:58 p.m.
Roxanne S.Botic.Recoi
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Roxanne S. Botic, RecordingSecretary