HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Planning Commission 1986-08-19BRADFORD PUBLISHING CO.RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Planning Coitunission
August 19, 1986
Commission:
Attending:
Also Attending:
Absent:
Chairman A1 Sager, Commissioners David
Barker, Duane Blair, Mark Brown, Mike
Dickinson, George Hix, Steve Komito
All
Town Administrator Hill, Town Attorney
White, Town Planner Stamey, Secretary
O'Connor
Town Engineer Widmer
Minutes of the Planning Commission meeting held July 15, 1986
were submitted and approved.
. SPECIAL REVIEWS:
2.a. Special Review #86-6 - Photo Safari Tours: Mr. Rick
Archibald, General Manager, presented the aforementioned
special review request. Planner Stamey summarized the staff
report stating the tours, of approximately one hour in
length, would be conducted through downtown Estes Park and
adjoining areas utilizing a double-decker English bus.
™I/T^ryo Slr-ettS include Elkhorn Avenue, Big Thompson Ave-
S^ono;J'f=i^ig S* ?i?hway 34 By-Pass and Mall Road.Proposed drop-off/pick-up points include:
• Stanley Hotel
• KOA Campground
• Municipal Parking Lot #1
• Area south of Municipal Building
(when completed)
• Tregent Park Loading Zone
• Elkhorn Lodge
• Corner of Park Lane and
MacGregor Avenue
• Holiday Inn
In-town headquarters have not been identi f i
crxteria established the hE reVleW
1. The applicant has obtained a P.U.C. License for thf^
proposed operation (#07383). r the
2‘ local^streets. 0peration wil1 adversely impact
3‘ se;erPaTl0aS„edduUsees.C0Ula PrOVl,3e SUpp0rt
4. The proposed use could lend Interest to the oommuni-
spondenoe tfrom referTl^tgenolSs!15’* °f thS f°llowin9 corre-
?os^ratPta:L^yrb5^1r!!?^rhority...
Building Inspector Jones ...i!;;;............. 08/04/fifi
State Highway Department .................................. 08/nfi/flfi
Larrmer County Planning Department i!;;; 08/08/86
iSterMestedMO?nnald a'Jdressed the Commission stating he was
interested in an identical operation and questioned ttO
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Town's public safety regulations with regard to the tour
vehicle. Town Attorney White advised a license for such an
operation is obtained and regulated by the Public Utilities
Commission. Mr. McDonald also requested a copy of the
proposed route and was advised a copy would be available in
the Planning Department. Chairman Sager questioned if the
"idling" would adversely affect the environment? Mr.
Archibald responded the bus would idle approximately two
minutes, long enough to drop-off and pick-up customers. The
bus would not idle an undetermined length of time. Mr.
Archibald also stated that the bus would be stored overnight
so as not to be visible from public streets. Mr. Archibald
stated Photo Safari Tours could meet all staff
recommendations. Commissioner Brown moved Special Review
Request #86-6 Photo Safari Tours be favorably recommended to
the Board of Trustees with the following conditions;
1. Eliminate the Park
drop-off/pick-up point.
Lane/MacGregor Avenue
2.
3.
4.
Should interference with normal public usage occur at
the drop-off/pick-up points on public property, the
applicant, shall, upon notification by the town,
modify the operation to correct identified problems.
Signage shall not be placed on public property.
All signage on the bus must pertain only to Photo
Safari Tours.
Commissioner Barker seconded the motion and it passed unani
mously.
3. SUBDIVISIONS;
•a• .—Prospect Mountain P.U.D., 6th Filing and Replat of a
ggrtion of the Third Filing; Mr. Bill Van Horn, representing
the owner, submitted the aforementioned subdivision. Planner
Stamey summarized the staff report. The 6th Filing contains
mZ7 aCy?f; gth .Filing and Replat contain 1.84 acres.
Three (3) new building lots and one enlarged lot will be
created. Existing zoning is R-Residential and P.U.D. Access
is achieved by Darcy Drive. The existing Lot 15 of the Third
Filing IS enlarged through the addition of Outlot E, which
was designated as a non-building site in the Third Filing.
Outiot D, Third Filing, which was designated as a
non-building site, is proposed as Lot 28. Darcy Drive, which
was originally proposed to be extended to the West, is now
terminate in a cul-de-sac. Two lots have been
added at the West end of the proposed Darcy Drive cul-de-sac.
re.sul't of the modification is an increase in three
building sites within the P.U.D. The applicant has proposed
to reduce the number of units to be built on Outlot B from 10
. . 7 to offset the density increase on this portion of the
site. Planner Stamey acknowledged receipt of the following
correspondence from referral agencies;
Town Engineer .................................................... 08/12/86
Town Attorney .................................................... 08/05/86
Light and Power Department ............................ 08/05/86
Discussion followed concerning the staff recommendation
pertaining to the extension of Darcy Drive. The proposed
length of the cul-de-sac is approximately 675 feet. The
Town Is Subdivision Regulation limits cul-de-sacs to 500 feet.
Section 16.16.060 Street—Dead-end states "Dead-end streets
shall ordinarily be not more than five hundred feet in
length." in Mr. Van Horn's opinion, the regulation was
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expressly written in this manner to allow flexibility. At
the time the sixth filing was discussed, the owner had no
intention of further development. When the concept of the
permanent cul-de-sac was discussed with staff, it was in the
context that this would be the last filing of the Prospect
Mountain P.U.D. Staff believes future development is being
planned west of the 6th Filing with an entrance road proposed
off Peak View Drive. Staff expressed concerns regarding
ease of maintenance, snowplowing and emergency vehicle
access. Mr. Van Horn provided a sketch indicating that, in
his opinion, more efficient snow remowal would occur in
plowing two cul-de-sacs in lieu of a through-street. Testi-
mony, in opposition to a through-street, was heard from the
following neighborhood residents; Bennett Penn, Ed Green,
President/Prospect Estates Townhome Association (submitted a
letter containing the signatures of eleven property owners),
and Don^ Brown. Mr. Maurice Worley, Real Estate Brok
er/Appraiser stated Prospect Mountain Estates is twice the
average value of property in the area. The cul-de-sac
achieved the highest land use. Commissioner Brown moved the
Prospect Mountain P.U.D. Sixth Filing and Replat of a Portion
of the Third Filing be favorably recommended to the Board of
Trustees contingent upon the following conditions:
1. A building setback of 25' from Peak View Drive be
designated for Lot 28.
2‘ n ^>1-,a-,Ced 0n the plat stating that density on
Outlot B shall not exceed seven (7) dwelling units.
3. Revised engineering drawings for Darcy Drive be
submitted. J
4
5,
Darcy Drive become a permanent cul-de-sac.
approPvra°lP.erty PinS mUSt bS SSt prior to Town Board
6. Provide "fill slope" easement along Darcy Drive as
required by the Town Engineer. Y
Town Attorney White questioned the status o-F
with respect to Outlots D and F ownership
the P.U.D. Mr. Van Honn ^he land bein5 added to
appropriate Attorney's CertificateSwould ha8 C°I™;j,ssion an
purpose. Chairman Sage^ questioned if thePr6S 1?- 1f°r thi^
Replat would conclude anv Fn^^v;^ a -■ th 6th Flling and
Mountain Estates pud ’ Mr Van rel°Pr:entaf0r ProsPaot
recognize a problem in aiding land to ?he PUD hG did n0t
following11 votesr:kerThoseniitinae -^0ti..°nrand- it. passed bY the
Brown, Dickinson Hix KoTnit- ^ Coimnissioners Barker,
Commissioner Blair. ' t and Sa5er- Those voting "No"
4. REPORTS:
Discussion
of. various coIra„uS?“st-aari^^0^"
request
of various communitier reqardTna t^^^ reported on a survey
Sifoiriws ?repared by Builain9 Inspector Jones Str-1-n3-llghtSResults areas follows:
Prohibition against string lights,
p?oMM?Id. ' feStlVe l00k ; blinking-types9 ari
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Vail - Prohibited, along with blinking and neon.
Breckenridqe - All lighting approved by staff, based upon
loose guidelines; holiday lighting allowed - "sign
framing" prohibited; "twinkling" allowed - "blinking"
prohibited.
Loveland - No prohibition of string lights; however,
blinking or flashing is not allowed.
Boulder - Prohibits strings, blinks, winks, wind signs and flags.
The existing Sign Code allows strings of lights in connection
with traditional holiday decorations. Staff recommends a
steady burning, clear bulb, midget light (18 watts maximum
per set of lights) be allowed should the Commission desire to
revise the Sign Code. Commissioner Blair moved the Planning
Commission not revise the Sign Code to allow string lights!
brtheS10fnot^oKOmit0 teCOnded the motion and it was deflated
Blair V?teS! TS?Se V°tlng ”Yes" Conmissionars
Barker r™ ann.d, ?a9er- Those voting "Ho" Commissioners
the Plannina Cn^i^Q1I?SOn/nd HlX* Conmissioner Brown moved rne Planning Commission direct staff to oreoarp a
ordinance including appropriate review and limitations
KD^Sionsa°„"d
publicZhearin^e^c!m!^:^nincf7 ChlairiJ)an .Sager reconvened the
among the Commission, Cons^ltfnraSd staff011 S pfir discaasion
reported the public hearinrr h ff* Planner StameyP.M. and continued to tSilanninaP ^^USt 18' 1986 at 7:30
19, 1986 at 1:30 P.M. h Planner Stam^1SS^q°npmeeting Au5ust
Herr have discussed thp Stamey and Consultant Philhearing. Planner Itamey l?a?l™SthrPere1S,Sea- “ the Public
required independent oonsfdRr.**1^ following four topics
residential zoning revisions: 1 m that o£ the
Review procedures
requirements).
subdivisions!:OVemen^ Guarantee:
(notification, procedural
and improvements in
• Zero Lot Lines and Townhouse Development,
card of Adjustment Procedure.
gestions made by the geSra? onhifoeCe.1Ved suPP°rt. Sug-
topics are items worthv o-F ^1C include the four
unreasonable to delay tL ia±nVhnT' h°wever£ it would be
nan?f* It is anticipated revisionc Y 05 .th.e ProP°sed ordi-
FnUld ^fke Place inunediately with perJ:.aining the ordinance
for public review by September 2 draft available
moved the public hearing to conQ-i!!086* 4-i.CoinTi:ilssioner Brown
nuance be continued to the Plann,r proposed zoning
scheduled for September 16 1986 i Coimnission meetingHix seconded the motion and i^ nL^^ 1:30 .P-M* Commissione?
cina It passed unanimously.
?re^\i1Tnee r;?4vea4-\o:iac"ansRf
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topics. Mr. Retrum was advised a deadline could not be given
at this time, however, the topics would be addressed as soon
as possible.
Tom Brown - Suggested additional consideration be given to
apply the zero lot-line guideline to multi-family zoning
districts.
Greg Rosener - Stated it was extremely important to address
the zero lot-line provision in the proposed R-M Zoning
District.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned.
Vickie O'Connor, Secretary