HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Planning Commission 1984-12-18BRADFORD PUBLISHING CO.RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
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December 18, 1984
Commission:
Attending:
Also Attending:
Absent:
Chairman Al Sager, Members Duane Blair, Mark
Brown, John Carmack, George Hix, Steve Komito,
Richard Wood
Chairman Sager, Members Blair, Brown,
Carmack, Komito, Wood
Town Administrator Hill, Attorney White,
Planner Stamey, Town Engineer Widmer, Secre
tary O'Connor
Member Hix
1. Minutes of the Planning Commission Meeting held November 20,
1984 were approved.
2. COUNTY REFERRALS:
2.a. Baldpate II Subdivision - Preliminary Plat: Mr. Gary Tuttle
(Land Design Consulting), representing the owners, presented the
preliminary plat for Baldpate II Subdivision. The proposed use
for the 427 acre site is single-family residential and accommo
dations. A marketing study and environmental analysis have been
completed for the project. The schedule for development is 10 -
20 years. A primary aim for the proposal is to set the deyelop-
ment back into the property so as not to be visible from Highway
7. The plan calls for using the existing roads (Old Fish Creek
Road and a roadway cut) and creating three emergency access
roads. 561 new dwelling units are being proposed, making the
total dwelling units 592. A fiscal impact study has also been
completed showing an estimated $275,000 in excess tax surplus.
50% occupancy of the guest units is anticipated. Water service
will be supplied by the creation of a metropolitan district.
Upper Thompson Sanitation District v;ill supply the sewer service.
Planner Stammey acknowledged the following correspondence
received to date:
Upper Thompson Sanitation District.....................12/05/84
Colorado Dept, of Health (Water Quality).... 11/30/84
Office of the State Engineer..................................12/03/84
Tahosa Valley Landowners' Association...............11/30/84
Colorado Division of Highways................................12/05/84
U. S. Forest Service (Arapaho & Roosevelt)..12/04/84
Larimer County Engineering Department...............12/10/84
Light and Power Department.......................................11/16/84
Larimer County Health Department..........................11/27/84
Larimer County Parks Department............................12/06/84
Member Komito expressed concern regarding the public hiking
trails now located in the Baldpate property. The owners stated
they will continue to give an access for the trails to Aspen
Brook, Highway 7 and Old Fish Creek Road; however, there is no
access to the Crags. Mr. Giles Gere, representing the Upper
Thompson Sanitation District (UTSD), supplied further background
information stating the district did have the capacity to service
this proposed development; however, the actual agreement between
the owners and UTSD had not been consummated. _ Additional back
ground information was received regarding litigation on the
property, the creation of a new water district and fire pro
tection. Member Blair moved the Estes Park Planning Commission
recognize Baldpate II Subdivision as a viable development.
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however, the Estes Park Planning Commission has concerns
regarding; environmental impact on air quality (i.e. fireplaces);
water supply; sewer service; extension of the right-of-way road
cuts along Highway 7, and needed improvements to the existing
Lily Mountain Trailhead located in the development boundary.
Member Brown seconded the motion and it passed by the following
votes: Those voting "Yes" Members Blair, Brown, Carmack, Sager,
and Wood. Those voting "No" Member Komito.
2.b. Amendment to Larimer County Zoning Resolution; Planner
Stamey acknowledged receipt of a letter dated December 10, 1984
submitted by Henry R. Baker, Planning Director, Larimer County
Planning Department. The intent of the letter was to encourage
the retention of large lot areas outside the urban growth areas
and to process development proposals to increase density through
the planned unit development approval process. The proposed
amendment would add Section 24.9 to the Larimer County Zoning
Resolution and would require a minimum lot area of 35 acres.
The zoning amendment would only apply in the Farming Districts
(FA and FA-1), Forestry District (FO and FO-1), the
Accommodations District (A) , the Tourist District (T) , and the
Open District (0) . As informed by Larimer County, the Baldpate
submittal would not be affected. The zoning amendment would most
greatly affect areas south of Estes Park. Mr. Bill Van Horn
stated the change would affect approximately 10,000 acres of
privately-owned land. Mr. Van Horn further stated the only
option available to a property owner would be to change the
applicable zoning. Mr. Giles Gere, representing the Estes Valley
Improvement Association, and Greg Rosener, Realtor, also ex
pressed concern and concurred with Mr. Van Horn's statements.
Member Wood moved the the Larimer County Planning Department be
informed the proposed zoning amendment has not had adequate study
or input, does not appear to be in Estes Park's best interest and
that the matter be taken under advisement and reconsidered at a
later date in relation to the Estes Valley. Member Brown
seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
3.UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
3.a. CJL SUBDIVISION - FINAL PLAT; Mr. Todd Plummer, represent-
ing the owners, presented the revised Final Plat for CJL Subdivi
sion. A memorandum, submitted by Building Inspector Jones, dated
December 17, 1984, was read. Four items of primary concern are;
1. The location of the angled exit doors located at
the Fudgeworks Of Estes and Caramel Crisp Shops.
2. The lack of a parapet between the Fudgeworks Of
Estes and Copper Penny Shops.
3. A questionable south 10 - 12' of wall between the
Fudgeworks Of Estes and the Copper Penny Shops.
4. Openings in the common walls. A 4x4' glassed-in
opening between the Fudgeworks Of Estes and Copper
Penny Shops and a 4x9' opening between the Copper
Penny and the Caramel Crisp Shops.
Owners Crain, Jandrain and Lindquist stated that they would
provide a two-hour fire wall to address Items 3 and 4 of Building
Inspector Jones' memorandum.
Discussion followed with Member Brown stating the Estes Park
Planning Commission acknowledge the donation of a 10' public
easement on the north side of Fall River, and approve the Final
Plat of CJL Subdivision subject to the following conditions:
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1. Change dedication statement and surveyor's certificate
to read Lots ^ and 21;
2. Remove ± notations from plat;
3. Remove the 25' dimensions on the north line;
4. Add exterior dimensions to the north and south boundary
lines;
5. Clarify Note C;
6. Correct spelling of Copper Penny;
7. Add scale to vicinity map;
8. All property pins set prior to Town Board approval;
9. Clarify building envelope and lot lines;
10. Increase southernmost aerial power easement to 10';
11. That a building permit on these three lots shall not be
issued for exterior construction within 20' of Fall
River until April 1, 1985 or adoption of proposed
commercial zoning revisions, whichever occurs first.
and that there are special circumstances or conditions affecting
the property; that the exception is necessary for the preserva
tion and the enjoyment of a substantial property right of the
petitioner; and that the granting of the exception will not be
materially detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to
other property in the neighborhood in which the property of the
petitioner is situated or in conflict with the purposes and
objectives of Title 16. Regarding Items 3 and 4 of Building
Inspector Jones' memorandum, if and when the Town Board approves
the Final Plat of CJL Subdivision, the openings in the common
walls affecting the Fudgeworks Of Estes, Copper Penny and Caramel
Crisp Shops will be done at the owner's discretion prior to May
31, 1985. Member Blair seconded the motion and it passed
unanimously.
3.b. LAKE MEADOW CONDOMINIUMS - SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN #13, LOT 2,
AYERS ACRES; Mr. Todd Plummer, representing the owners, present
ed the revised Site Development Plan for Lake Meadow Condomini
ums. Planner Stamey acknowledged receipt of the following
correspondence:
Colorado Division of Highways...................................12/10/84
Town Planner........................................................................12/11/84
Town Engineer......................................................................12/06/84
Light and Power Director..............................................12/05/84
X*7ater Superintendent.......................................................12/10/84
Town Attorney......................................................................12/11/84
Estes Park Fire Department..........................................
Upper Thompson Sanitation District........................12/11/84
Public Service Company..................................................12/03/84
National Park Service.....................................................11/30/84
Mr. Plummer stated adequate fire protection had been provided
using the "ISO" standards. Fire Chief Rumley requested the water
lines be upgraded if smaller than 6" and that fire plugs be
spaced 300' apart. A clarification of parking spaces established
the actual number as being 89 which does not equal the 2 spaces
per unit required by the Municipal Code. Mr. Plummer stated that
in an effort to save mature trees, one space was eliminated.
Member Brown moved Lake Meadow Condominiums, Site Development
Plan #13 be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. Site Plan should indicate/show:
a. More information on project landscaping.
b. Type and height of outdoor lighting.
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c. Yard fencing materials and total height.
d. A note stating that fences shall not be allowed on
the east side of Building H.
e. Location of sidewalks.
f. A note on snow removal/storage would be beneficial.
g. Details of four detention ponds, including release
structures and rates.
2. That until the Columbine Inn is connected to sanitary
sewer (Upper Thompson Sanitation District), building
permits will be issued only for Buildings A, B, G and H.
3. Completion of petition requirements for inclusion in
Upper Thompson Sanitation District.
4. Engineer signature and stamp on drainage study.
5. Water service lines should be larger or looped (Water
Department.
6. Resolve placement of fire hydrants subject to Fire
Department approval.
7. Resolve main water line size subject to the Fire
Department's and Water Department's approval.
8. Resolve encroachment of Buildings A and B on 15' Upper
Thompson Sanitation District easement.
9. The ordinance regarding two parking spaces per unit be
observed.
Member Komito seconded the motion. Those voting "Yes" Members
Brown, Carmack, Komito, Sager and Wood. Those voting "No"
Member Blair. dbOjdtjL
4. NEW BUSINESS:
4.a. FAIRWAY CONDOMINIUMS - REQUEST FOR EXTENSION: In a letter
dated December 11, 1984 submitted by Mr. Tom Brown, Estes Park
Surveyors, a request was made to extend the completion date from
December 31, 1984 to June 1, 1985 for Fairway Condominiums, Phase
II. All improvements have been completed with the exception of
the new water line. Member Brown moved Fairway Condominiums,
Phase II be granted an extension to June 1, 1985 for completion
of all improvements. Member Blair seconded the motion and it
passed unanimously.
4.b. JAMES SUBDIVISION - BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT: Mr. Paul Kochevar,
representing the owners, submitted the James Subdivision Boundary
Adjustment. The size of the site is 10.86 acres and includes two
lots. Existing zoning is R - One-family Residence. Member Wood
moved James Subdivision be favorably recommended to the Town
Board subject to all property pins being set prior to Town Board
approval and that the granting of the exception will not be
materially detrimental to the public welfare or injurious to
other property in the neighborhood in which the property of the
petitioner is situated or in conflict with the purposes and
objectives of Title 16. Member Brown seconded the motion and it
passed unanimously.
4.C. SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN #15 - LOT 4, BLOCK 5, FIRST ADDITION
TO LONE PINE ACRES: Mr. Paul Kochevar, representing the owners,
presented the site development plan for Lot 4, Block 5, First
Addition to Lone Pine Acres. The size of the site is 0.8 acres.
Existing zoning is R-2 Multiple Family. Four more units are
proposed with the completion date for the first unit being
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January 1, 1987 and the remaining units being completed January
1, 1990. Planner Stamey acknowledged the following correspon
dence :
Colorado Division of Highways................................12/10/84
Town Planner.....................................................................12/11/84
Town Engineer...................................................................12/05/84
Light and Power Director...........................................12/05/84
Water Superintendent......................................... 12/10/84
Town Attorney...................................................................12/11/84
Estes Park Fire Department.......................................12/11/84
Public Service Company................................................12/03/84
National Park Service..................................................11/30/84
Upper Thompson Sanitation District.....................12/11/84
The owners are requesting a variance from the Upper Thompson
Sanitation District to enable them to build in the sanitation
district's easement. Following discussion, Member Wood moved
Site Development #15 for Lot 4, Block 5, First Addition to Lone
Pine Acres be approved subject to the following conditions:
1. Maintain a minimum 10' separation between the existing
four-plex unit and proposed duplex units.
2. The legal description should read "First Addition to
Lone Pine Acres."
3. Pave the existing drive with 2" asphalt as part of this
project.
4. Provide an emergency overflow for a drainage detention
pond. Protect the downstream site from overflow with
rip-rap.
5. Show details of detention area, outlet, and overflow on
the site plan.
6. Retaining wall is setback 10' from the center of the
water line which runs along the east lot line (Water
Department.)
7. Provide more clearance between the garage on the west
side of the new building and the south side of the
existing building (Fire Department). A masonry block
wall will be adequate.
8. Receive approval from the Upper Thompson Sanitation
District for the drainage detention structure and
eastern garage located in sanitation district's ease
ment.
9. Include a vicinity map on the plat.
Member Blair seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
4.d. LAND DEDICATION/FEE IN LIEU OF LAND DEDICATION - PARK SCHOOL
DISTRICT R-3: Mr. Herbert Wenger, Superintendent, was present
and stated Park School District R-3, Poudre School District R-1
and Thompson School were requesting the establishment of a
uniform County and City land dedication/fee in lieu of land
dedication requirement to be applied to new residential develop
ments. To date, the average land valuation is $8,000. The
Larimer County Planning Commission has suggested a valuation of
$12,000. In Estes Park, a total of 54 students have been gained
with the period of growth increasing 5.6%. Mr. Wenger stated
House Bill 1189 enables school districts to use funds derived
from subdivision sites and land areas for capital improvements
such as swimming pools. Planning Commission members indicated
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that funds should be earmarked for growth impacts. Chairman
Sager suggested that the Estes Park Planning Commission find that
the burden lie with the School Board in identifying the method
and manner in which the fee would be used and that at such time
as this course of action is accomplished, a presentation be made
to the Estes Park Planning Commission for their review with
action recommended to the Town Board in accordance with the
County Commissioners.
4.e. ADOPTION OF SUBMISSION SCHEDULE FOR ESTES PARK PLANNING
COMMISSION; Planner Stamey presented a proposed submission
schedule for special reviews, planned unit developments, site
development plans and subdivision plats. The proposal recommends
submittal requests be made 21 days prior to Planning Commission
meetings and contain 21 copies of plats. Member Brown moved the
Estes Park Planning Commission adopt the submission schedule with
complete plats, site plans, etc. (with corrections and ad
ditions) , being submitted to the Town Planner no later than two
(2) working days prior to the next Town Board agenda. Member
Wood seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
5.DISCUSSION;
5.a. COLORADO LAND USE COMMISSION - REVIEW; Planner Stamey
submitted a staff report regarding the Colorado Land Use Commis
sion request to designate the Stanley Hotel area as an area of
state interest. Town Attorney White advised Trustees Brown and
Wood not to participate in any discussion due to the public
hearing on this matter, which is scheduled for Thursday, December
20, 1984. Members Brown and Wood therefore, excused themselves
from the Planning Commission meeting. Chairman Sager recommended
four members of the Planning Commission attend the public hear
ing. Member Blair moved Chairman Sager represent the Estes Park
Planning Commission at the public hearing being held December 20,
1984. Member Komito seconded the motion and it passed unanimous
ly*
6.SET PUBLIC HEARING;
6.a. REVISION OF COMMERCIAL ZONING REGULATIONS; The proposal for
revision of Commercial zoning, prepared by Philip B. Herr &
Associates has been received. Member Komito moved a public
hearing be set for Tuesday, January 29, 1985 at 7;30 P.M. in the
Board Room of the Municipal Building. Member Blair seconded the
motion and it passed unanimously. Two "work sessions" prior to
the public hearing will also be held - Friday, January 4, and
Friday, January 18, 1985. Both work sessions will take place at
12;00 Noon.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned.
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Vickie O'Connor, Secretary
[APPROVED
JAN 81985
TOWN Of ESTES PARK
BOARD OF TROSTEES