HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Planning Commission 1984-01-17BRADFORD PUBLISHING CO.RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Planning Commission
January 17, 1984
Commission:
Attending:
Also Attending:
Chairman A1 Sager, Members Duane Blair,
George J. Hix, Margaret Houston, Steve
Komito, Richard A. Wood and John Carmack
All
Town Administrator Hill, Attorney White,
Public Works Director Widmer, Planner Cole,
Secretary Jensen
Minutes of the Planning Commission meeting held December 20, 1983
were approved.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS:
Member George Hix nominated A1 Sager as Chairman of the Planning
Commission, Member John Carmack seconded the motion. Member
George Hix moved the nominations be closed and the Secretary cast
a unanimous ballot. Member Richard Wood seconded the motion and
it passed unanimously with Member A1 Sager abstaining from the
vote. Member Duane Blair nominated Margaret Houston for
Vice-Chairman and Member George Hix seconded the motion. Member
Duane Blair then moved the nominations be closed and the Secre
tary cast a unanimous ballot. Member George Hix seconded the
motion and it passed unanimously, with Member Margaret Houston
abstaining from the vote. Member Margaret Houston nominated Ann
Jensen as Secretary. Member George Hix seconded the motion and
it passed unanimously.
SRR No. 41 - BOWLING CENTER - REQUEST FOR AN EXCEPTION:
In a letter dated January 3, 1984, Mr. John Ownby wrote to
request the removal of the buildings on the Bowling Alley Site
Plan be stricken from the site plan. Mr. John Ownby, Jr. ex
plained that until the owner had plans for the property, he did
not wish to remove the existing structures. The site plan was
intended as a "partial site plan" for the bowling alley only.
Public Works Director Widmer stated that the site plan shows both
pieces of property and one completion date for the project.
Member Richard Wood stated that the public hearing on Special
Review Request No. 41 was conducted based on the site plan
submitted, and he had a problem with modifying the plan without
public input. Chairman Sager stated that without another Special
Review Request and public hearing, the Planning Commission would
be in error by modifying the plan. Member Duane Blair moved the
Planning Commission recommend denial of this request to the Town
Board. Member John Carmack seconded the motion and it passed
unanimously.
C-1 COMMERCIAL ZONE - LOT SIZE AMENDMENT - PUBLIC HEARING:
Chairman Al Sager opened a public hearing on a proposed amendment
to the C-1 Commercial Zone which would incorporate the minimum
lot size requirements as in the C-2 Restricted Commercial Zone.
Public Works Director Widmer read the proposed ordinance amending
the Code. Those speaking in favor of the amendment, none. Those
speaking in opposition to the amendment, none. Mr. Bill Van Horn
asked for a point of clarification regarding the possibility of
the ordinance affecting a Commercial Subdivision. Director
Widmer stated that this amendment will not affect Commercial
Subdivisions. Chairman Sager declared the hearing closed.
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Member Richard Wood moved this ordinance amendment be favorably
recommended to the Town Board. Member George Hix seconded the
motion and it passed unanimously.
FALL RIVER ESTATES, THIRD ADDITION - PRELIMINARY PLAT;
Mr. Tom Brown, representing the owners, presented Fall River
Estates, Third Addition preliminary plat (Section 15, T5N, R73W
of the 6th P.M.). The following correspondence was received:
National Park Service ..................................................01/06/84
Estes Park Fire Department .......................................01/05/84
Department of Highways..................................................01/06/84
Public Works Director....................................................01/06/84
Water Superintendent ....................................................01/09/84
Light and Power Director ........................................01/09/84
Town Attorney ...................................................................01/10/84
Town Planner .....................................................................01/11/84
Mr. Brown indicated that the comments in the Planner's letter
would be taken care of during the Site Development process. In
response to the Town Attorney's letter, Mr. Brown stated that he
would indicate "private road easement" on the site plan. The
wording would be approved by the Town Attorney. In response to
the Water Superintendent's letter, Mr. Brown stated the water
lines are shown on the plat and the fire protection had been
taken into consideration by the Fire Department. Mr. Brov/n did
not respond to item 1 in the Public Works Director's letter
regarding a 2 inch overlay of 1,425 feet of county road (a town
road if annexed) , at an approximate cost of $14,000. Mr. Brown
did indicate that item 3 regarding the replatting of Lot 2 to
conform to the Municipal Code would be met by subjecting Lot 2 to
the Site Development Process. Mr. Maurice Worley, Chairman of
the Methodist Church Board of Directors, stated that the
Methodist Church owns Lot 1, Block 5 of the Fall River Estates,
Third Addition, and requested the Town approve the annexation.
Mr. Worley requested the Town consider overlaying Fish Hatchery
Road because the road will be used by the church when their
building is constructed. A lengthy discussion followed. Member
Margaret Houston moved the preliminary plat be accepted with the
following conditions: the Town Attorney provide the wording for
the road easement and lot 2 be replatted to conform to the
requirements of the Code. After a brief discussion. Member
Houston withdrew her motion. Member Duane Blair moved the Fall
River Estates, Third Addition preliminary plat be accepted with
the following conditions:
1. Show road easement as a "private road easement"
allowing the Town Attorney to word the dedication to be
placed on the plat.
2. Development on lot 2 be subject to the Site Development
Process.
3. The cost to overlay Fish Hatchery Road be borne by the
developer.
Member Richard Wood seconded the motion and it passed
unanimously.
PROSPECT MOUNTAIN SUBDIVISION, A P.U.D. THIRD FILING - SITE PLAN
Mr. Bill Van Horn, representing the owners, presented the final
site plan on Prospect Mountain Subdivision, a P.U.D. Third
Filing. Mr. Van Horn explained that by developing the property
in stages, the owner was able to more fully utilize the property
which produces a good finished product. The following correspon
dence was received:
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Light and Power Director ......................................12/28/83
Estes Park Fire Department ......................................01/04/84
Public Works Director ..................................................01/06/84
Water Superintendent ...................................................01/09/84
Upper Thompson Sanitation District ......................01/09/84
Town Attorney ...................................................................01/10/84
Town Planner .....................................................................01/11/84
A lengthy discussion followed on whether the private drive
indicated on the site plan was in fact a private drive or private
street. Attorney Greg White stated that it was his opinion that
this was a private street and Section 17.60.090 (8) provides that
"there shall be no private streets located within a planned unit
development". Mr. Van Horn stated that this was a "gray" area
and he felt it should be a private drive maintained by the
developer rather than a publicly maintained street. Planner Cole
stated that she would like to see how the rest of Outlot A v/ill
be developed. Mr. Van Horn stated that this could be done. A
discussion also ensued on the 30 foot setback on the westerly
boundary of the envelopes required in Section 17.60.090 (a) of
the Code and filed by the applicant in the original statement of
intent. Mr. Van Horn asked the Planning Commission to table
Prospect Mountain Subdivision, P.U.D. Third Filing and Site Plan
until next month in order to allow him an opportunity to work
with the Town Staff regarding the street situation and the 30
foot setbacks on the westerly boundary of the envelopes. Mr. Van
Horn indicated that he would provide a site plan for the
remainder of Outlot A. Member Richard Wood moved Prospect
Mountain Subdivision, a P.U.D. Third Filing be tabled until the
February Planning Commission meeting. Member Margaret Houston
seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
MANUAL OUTLINE AND CONSULTANT QUALIFICATION STATEMENTS DISCUSSED;
The Planning Commission agreed to discuss the Manual Outline at a
work session scheduled for Tuesday, February 7, 1984 at 12:00
noon. The Planning Commission would also like to interview the
two consultants on the revision of the Zoning Ordinance at that
time. Planner Cole will make arrangements for the interviews and
send notices to the Planning Commission members.
COUNTY REFERRALS:
Thunder Mountain Park, a P.U.D. Master Plan. The property is
located three miles from National Park Village South on County
Road 69B, also known as Tunnel Road (North 1/2 of Section 9, T4N,
R73W of the 6th P.M. , Larimer County) . Mr. Paul Kochevar,
representing Thunder Mountain Associates (developers of the
property), explained that the development would include 41 lots
in an E-Estate Zone and that each lot be approximately 2.2 acres,
with 51.6 acres of open space for a total of 92.3 acres. The
following correspondence was received:
Neil Rosener (In support of the development) 01/09/84
To County from National Park Service ............11/22/83
To County from Bureau of Reclamation ................12/02/83
Town Planner (With Attachments) ...........................12/12/83
Mr. Roe Johnson, representing the John Timothy Stone Association,
expressed concern about the overall density of the development
and the traffic problems which might be created on the County
Road. Mr. Wayne Newsom spoke in favor of the development.
Chairman A1 Sager asked about secondary access to the property.
Mr. Kochevar explained that the owners of the property had an
agreement with the YMCA Camp and Bureau of Reclamation to provide
access across the Bureau of Reclamation property to the Tunnel
Road. A discussion followed on the water situation. Mr. Dwight
Dannen, General Partner in Thunder Mountain Associates, explained
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the water system stating that water would be provided through the
tunnel, and when that was shut down, they would turn Wind River
into the syphon. Chairman A1 Sager asked the Planning Commission
members to give their opinions on the project;
Al Sager - He recognizes the developers have made an
effort to alleviate the problems that were expressed
when the development came to the Planning Commission in
September, 1983. He feels this is a proper development
for this area.
Margaret Houston - She is not concerned about the road
situation and feels the development is close enough to
Town to be adequately taken care of by the Fire Depart
ment, Sheriff's office, and school system.
Richard Wood - He would like to see the road upgraded,
but does not see this as a reason to jeopardize the
development.
George Hix - He likes the project and feels the devel
opers have tried to meet the concerns of the people.
Duane Blair - He is for the project.
Steve Komito - He is concerned about the secondary
access road and it feels it might be wise to include
another secondary access as part of the proposal.
John Carmack - Expressed concern about the secondary
access road.
Big View Acres - Mr. Bill Van Horn, representing the owners,
presented the Subdivision Sketch Plan for Big View Acres (Section
17 and 20, T5N, R72W) . The property contains 114 acres with 29
proposed lots and is located on the west side of Dry Gulch Road
approximately one-half mile from Town limits. Mr. Van Horn
explained that this is a rural development, and as such would
have well water and septic systems. A lengthy discussion fol
lowed on the utilities. The following correspondence was
received;
Public Works Director ................................................12/22/83
Estes Park Fire Department ......................................12/09/83
Public Works Director Widmer stated that this development would
not meet Town standards. Mr. Russell Legg, Larimer County
Planner, stated that the County Health Department had some
concerns on soils tested in the area. He also stated that
Larimer County is currently doing a study on the North End and
he would like the Town and County Staffs to review the entire
north end when the data has been compiled. Chairman Sager stated
that the County is making an effort to identify the situation in
the entire north end and he is in favor of staying with the Town
staff recommendation, which states the subdivision should be
constructed in accordance with all Town standards. Mr. Ned
Bramwell, President of the North End Property Owners Association,
expressed the Association's concern that this^ remain a
low—density area. The Planning Commission agreed with Chairman
Sager that the subdivision should be constructed to Town stan
dards .
The discussion of "Proposed Procedures For County Referrals" was
postponed.
'own ClerkAnn E. Jensen