HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Estes Park Board of Appeals 2015-02-05RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Estes Park Board of Appeals
February 5, 2015
Board Room, Estes Park Town Hall
Commission:
Attending:
Also Attending:
Absent:
Brad Klein, John Spooner, Joe Calvin, Don Darling, Tony Schiaffo
Members Klein, Spooner, Calvin, and Schiaffo
Chief Building Official Will Birchfield, Building Inspector Claude Traufield, Permit
Technician Charlie Phillips, Recording Secretary Karen Thompson
Member Darling
The following minutes reflect the order of the agenda and not necessarily the chronological sequence.
CBO Birchfield opened the meeting. He informed the Board all meetings will be recorded and
televised. Each Board member introduced himself and gave their area of expertise as follows: Member
Schiaffo, Mechanical and Plumbing for 40 years; Member Calvin, Registered Architect for 25 years;
Member Spooner, Registered Professional Engineer focusing on structural engineering and water
resources for 45 years; and Member Klein, HVAC and Mechanical for 16 years. Note: Member Darling
is a General Contractor.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS
Member Calvin nominated Member Spooner for Chair. Member Spooner nominated Member Schiaffo
for Vice-Chair.
It was moved and seconded (Calvin/Schiaffo) to elect Member Spooner as Chair of the Board of
Appeals for a one year term, and the motion passed unanimousiy with one absent.
It was moved and seconded (Spooner/Calvin) to elect Member Schiaffo as Vice-Chair of the Board of
Appeals for a one year term, and the motion passed unanimously with one absent.
A five-minute recess was called to program the voting stations. The meeting reconvened at 4:15.
BOARD OF APPEALS BYLAWS
Chair Spooner opened discussion on the Bylaws. CBO Birchfield stated the IBC has provisions for a
Board of Appeals, which is different than the Town-generated Bylaws. Concerning item II.C, there was
general consensus to revise the language to read: Regularly scheduled meetings of the Board may be
canceled or rescheduled upon approval by two-thirds three of the members of the Board. Secretary
Thompson stated the Bylaws were revised to reflect the changes requested at the January meeting,
and confirmed that a quorum would consist of three (3) members. There was discussion concerning
item III.G, which states the approval of appeals requires 60% of the members attending any meeting
at which a quorum is present. CBO Birchfield explained if all members were present, approval would
require three members. If three members were present, approval would require two members. If the
Board did not feel confident making the decision on an appeal with only three members in
attendance, the item could be continued to a future date when all members were present. Member
Calvin requested clarification on whether a Board member could bring an issue to the Board of
Appeals as a public citizen, not as a Board member. CBO Birchfield confirmed any member could speak
as a public citizen or client representative by recusing himself from the Board and leaving the dais.
It was moved and seconded (Calvin/Schiaffo) to approve the bylaws as amended (Section II.C) and
the motion passed 4-0 with one absent.
Chair Spooner stated the March meeting will be held March 12, 2015. Future meetings will be held the
first Thursday of each month. Meetings will be held in the Town Hall Board Room from 4 to 6 p.m.
2012 SIGNIFICANT CHANGES CRITERIA
CBO Birchfield distributed a handout of the 2012 Significant Changes. Although the 2012 Codes were
not adopted, the changes will still apply to the 2015 Codes, unless they were repealed. Purpose of
presenting the 2012 Significant Changes is to get a position of this Board as to the process being used
by staff for formatting revisions. If the Board agrees, staff will use this format for the 2015 Code. With
few exceptions, changes have not been identified for discussion if they meet any of the following
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criteria: (1) The change decreased requirements; (2) The change is for clarification; (3) The code
section is not applicable in the Town of Estes Park (i.e. seismic zone D, high rises, etc.); (4) The code
section is extremely technical; is rarely an issue and requires the expertise of an architect or engineer;
(5) The change increases compliance options; (6) The change is exempted by Federal, State, or District
regulations (i.e. NFPA 101, Colorado Department of Health & Environment, public schools, etc.); (7)
The change permits methods or materials already permitted by the Chief Building Official; (8) The
change provides consistency with a national standard.
CBO Birchfield stated the 2015 Significant Changes would be provided to the Board a couple of weeks
prior to the March meeting for their review. He would like to "assign" each significant change to the
Board member or staff most qualified to lead any discussion that may come forth at the meetings.
2012 SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE
CBO Birchfield reviewed several of the 2012 Significant Changes so the Board could better understand
the format, and the thoughts behind the commentary. The full document, and other documents
related to the code adoptions can be viewed on the Town website at www.estes.org/icodes.
CBO Birchfield stated he would be providing the format and adoption timeline to the Town Board on
February 10, 2015. Feedback from the Board would be appreciated. He encouraged contractors and
other members of the public to attend the meetings and become involved. The meetings are not
quasi-judicial, and discussion is encouraged. Code books are available in the Division of Building Safety
for check out. CBO Birchfield and staff will complete the majority of the legwork on the code revisions,
and the Board and public will have the opportunity to review them and proposed amendments.
The March meeting agenda will include the 2015 IBC Significant Changes. There will be a press release,
and emails sent to all contractors. Depending on the time needed for discussion, the proposed local
amendments to the IBC will also be discussed.
CBO Birchfield stated except for the International Residential Code (IRC), all other codes are
referenced in the IBC in their entirety. Chapter 1 references all the codes, which means when you
adopt the IBC you also adopt all the others: International Fuel Gas Code (IFGC), International
Mechanical Code (IMC), International Plumbing Code (IPC), International Property Maintenance Code
(IPMC), International Fire Code (IFC), International Energy Conservation Code (lECC), and International
Existing Building Code (lEBC). Each code will be reviewed in the order listed in the IBC. The IRC is
different in that it stands alone and provides all the information needed to build a residential dwelling.
It pulls in sections from other codes rather than adopting the entire code by reference.
CBO Birchfield stated each monthly meeting would involve discussion of significant changes, proposed
local amendments, and stakeholder and public concerns for one of the International Codes. Each
month, a different code would be on the agenda. Additional public meetings could be held in between
the regular meetings if discussions were not resolved at the regular meeting. He plans to keep the
Town Trustees informed on a regular basis as to recommendations of this Board. If all goes according
to plan, the Board of Appeals would make a final recommendation for all codes in November, and at
least one public hearing would be held by the Town Board late November or early December.
Concerning public comment at Board of Appeals meetings, he stated it is the Chair's responsibility to
keep the meeting on task and moving forward.
FEES
CBO Birchfield stated the fee schedule currently adopted is based on valuation, which includes costs
plus labor. The Division of Building Safety uses a valuation schedule to calculate the fees, based on
square foot formulas. It is a rather complicated process, because different uses of buildings have
different valuations. The fee schedule in use today has been in use since 1998. Although project costs
have increased, which has subsequently increased valuation, the fees associated with those valuations
have not increased. He explained the lower the value of the project, the higher the percent of the
fees, in relationship to the project. On the flip side, high value projects have lower fees in relationship
to the project. If the Board and stakeholders choose to stay with this fee structure, we will need to
look at revising the unit costs for the IRC and IBC. If square foot unit values are inaccurate, the fees
being charged are not being assessed on the entire value of the project. Square foot unit values come
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from a national standard that can be modified regionally, if needed. To be equitable, the numbers
have to be accurate. CBO Birchfield stated Estes Park has extremely low permit fees compared to
other jurisdictions. He would like to see permit fees reflect the true value of the project, and would
appreciate a process that is easier to calculate than the current fee schedule. This would allow the
customer to be able to estimate fees prior to issuance of the permit. For example, the fee could be $1
per square foot plus $.50 per square foot for plan review. Multiple inspections and/or reviews would
have additional charges. Flat fees could be charged for over-the-counter permits. CBO Birchfield
stated the current system is very difficult to understand. While other jurisdictions have implemented
impact fees (school, road, fire, etc.), Estes Park has not taken that route. The consideration of impact
fees would need to come from the elected officials.
CBO Birchfield stated he would prefer to use unit cost, with additional fees for more complicated
projects. Many building plans require engineering due to the increased design wind speed, and a
possible option could be to lower review fees since plans are stamped by engineers. He would
appreciate feedback from the Board concerning ways to apply fees. He stated the revenue from
permit fees is deposited into the Town's general fund. Member Klein requested examples of fee
structures from other jurisdictions. CBO Birchfield stated he will ask the elected officials where they
stand on the matter and bring it back to the Board of Appeals.
Public comment
None
STAFF AND MEMBER DISCUSSION
CBO Birchfield reviewed the code books with Board members, explaining what the symbols and
formatting means. Many of the changes deal with national standards, so the Board and staff need to
be cognizant of those standards. As new codes are adopted, they will reference more recent additions
of the same standards. When an amendment is proposed, care needs to be given to revise all portions
of the code dealing with that amendment. Local amendments need to align with the Fire Code, sewer
requirements established by the sanitation districts, etc. A lot of thought and research by staff goes
into the local amendments. Chair Spooner stated he would be interested in hearing staff's issues with
the current codes and local amendments.
There was discussion between CBO Birchfield and the Board. Comments included, but were not
limited to: once the local amendments are adopted, the document will be burned onto CDs and given
to contractors, a clean copy of the local amendments should be posted to the Town website; out of
respect of people's time, meetings will begin and end on time, with items requiring additional
discussion being continued to either an additional meeting or the next regularly scheduled meeting; if
additional meetings are required. Board members will be given updates at the next regularly
scheduled Board of Appeals meeting, and discussion among the Board and staff will occur before a
recommendation is made; if members of the public would prefer to provide written comments rather
than speaking in public, letters can be sent to CBO Birchfield at wbirchfield@estes.org, and the
comments will be provided to the Board of Appeals and the Town Trustees; it is important that all that
desire to be heard are provided that opportunity. Once the codes are adopted, the Estes Valley Library
will have a copy of the code books for reference use (no check out).
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 5:32 p.m.
JohnySpooner, Chair
Karen Thompson, Retotxling Secretary