HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Estes Valley Planning Commission 2006-03-21RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Regular Meeting of the Estes Valley Planning Commission
March 21, 2006,1:30 p.m.
Board Room, Estes Park Town Hall
Commission:
Attending:
Also Attending:
Absent:
Chair Edward Pohl; Commissioners Wendell Amos, Ike Eisenlauer,
George Hix, Betty Hull, Joyce Kitchen, and Doug Klink
Chair Pohl, Commissioners Amos, Eisenlauer, Hix, Hull, Kitchen,
and Klink
Town Attorney White, Town Board Liaison Homeier, Director
Joseph, Planner Shirk, and Recording Secretary Roederer
Planner Chilcott
Chair Pohl called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
The following minutes reflect the order of the agenda and not necessarily the
chronological sequence of the meeting.
1. CONSENT AGENDA
Estes Valley Planning Commission minutes dated February 21,2006.
It was moved and seconded (Hull/Eisenlauer) that the Consent Agenda be
accepted, and the motion passed unanimously.
2. PUBLIC COMMENT
None.
3. AMENDED PLAT, Mary’s Meadow Development, Lots 2, 4, and Outlot A, Mary’s
Lake Replat of Mary’s Lake Subdivision, AND
DEVELOPMENT PLAN 06-01 and PRELIMINARY CONDOMINIUM MAP, Mary’s
Meadow Development, Proposed Lot 4A, Mary’s Meadow Replat of Mary’s
Lake Replat of Mary’s Lake Subdivision, East of Mary’s Lake Lodge at the
intersection of Kiowa Drive and Mary’s Lake Road, Applicant: Mary’s Meadow
Development, Inc.
Director Joseph stated this is an amended plat, development plan, and preliminary
condominium map proposal that would allow the development of thirty-five single
family and multi-family units located on proposed Lot 4A. Due to an accident
involving the engineer of this project, final plans are not ready for Planning
Commission review, and the applicant has requested the continuance of these items
to the April 18, 2006 Planning Commission meeting. Additional written comments
were received on March 14, 2006 from Deborah P. and Joseph W. Ford of 2800
Kiowa Trail, which primarily object to the proposed location of the common building.
Because it was stated at the February 21, 2006 Planning Commission meeting that
additional public input on this application would be taken at the March meeting.
Chair Pohl opened the session to public comment.
Public Comment:
William Howell of 3025 Sioux Court in Kiowa Ridge Subdivision stated his concerns
regarding the deterioration of other co-housing developments and presented photos
of said developments as an addendum to his letter of February 13, 2006 to the
Planning Commission. He stated his objections to the proposed location of the
common building and that the developer had not been receptive to requests to
consider relocating the building.
Joe Ford of 2800 Kiowa Trail stated his disagreement with planning staffs definition
of the development as a multi-family condominium complex. He urged the Planning
Commissioners to consider the use, design, and implementation of the proposed
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development as well as its impact on surrounding property. He stated his objections
to the proposed uses of the common building, particularly as a community gathering
place for daily meals. He reiterated his objection to the proposed location of the
common building.
Attorney White stated that planning staff attempts to mitigate the impact of proposed
development on surrounding neighborhoods and that the Planning Commission
does not have the authority to determine where the proposed common building will
be located, provided it does not violate specific standards, such as building
setbacks, contained in the Estes Valley Development Code. Director Joseph stated
his belief that Mr. Ford misunderstands the terminology and that co-housing fits
easily within the broader umbrella of residential use. Chair Pohl pointed out that as
an accommodations-zoned property, the development could be much denser and
could include a commercial restaurant.
No representative of applicant was present.
At the applicant’s request, it was moved and seconded (Klink/Hull) to continue
the Amended Piat request for Mary’s Meadow Development, Lots 2, 4, and
Outlot A, Mary’s Lake Replat of Mary’s Lake Subdivision, and the Deveiopment
Pian 06-01 and the Preiiminary Condominium Map requests, Mary’s Meadow
Repiat of Mary’s Lake Repiat of Mary’s Lake Subdivision, to the Aprii 18, 2006
Pianning Commission meeting, and the motion passed unanimously.
4. AMENDED PLAT, Lots 1 & 2, Larimer Terminals Subdivision, 901 Juniper Lane,
Appiicant: Hawf & Mechem, LLC
Planner Shirk stated this is a request to amend two lots by vacating a portion of
unused right-of-way and an unused horse-trail easement that were platted with the
original subdivision of Larimer Terminals in 1957. The horse-trail easement was not
dedicated to the public but was a reserved right of the subdivider. As such, the
Planning Commission does not have authority to remove the horse-trail easement.
The owner is currently working on a quiet title to vacate the horse-trail easement and
has requested continuance of this application to the April 18, 2006 Planning
Commission meeting.
Public Comment:
None.
It was moved and seconded (Kitchen/Hull) to continue the request for an
Amended Plat of Lots 1 & 2, Larimer Terminals Subdivision, to the April 18,
2006 Planning Commission meeting, and the motion passed unanimously.
5. PRELIMINARY CONDOMINIUM MAP, Streamside Condominiums Phase I, Lot
1, Streamside Amended Plat, 1260 & 1350 Fall River Road, Applicant:
Streamside Cottages, LLC
Planner Shirk reviewed the staff report. He stated this is a preliminary condorninium
subdivision proposal to divide existing units into individual ownership and provide for
the potential development of additional units in the future. The property is currently
operated as Streamside Cottages. Development Plan 05-05, which provides for
twenty-four units, was approved by the Planning Commission on October 18, 2005.
This request contemplates those units and provides building envelopes for the
potential development of an additional twenty-four units. Approval of this preliminary
condominium map would not provide a vested right for the additional development,
which would be subject to full review at the time it is proposed.
This request was submitted to all applicable reviewing agency staff and to
neighboring property owners for consideration and comment. Comments were
received from the Town of Estes Park Public Works, Engineering, and Light and
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Power Departments, from Town Attorney Greg White, and from Estes Park
Sanitation District. No written comments were received from neighbors. The Estes
Park Sanitation District noted the existing service line is inadequate and needs to be
replaced; the upgrade is currently in progress. Town Attorney White’s comments
were regarding the condominium declaration documents. A variety of comments
from Town departments were received regarding the condominium subdivision as
well as future development. The bridge on the property must be brought up to
American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials (AASHTO)
standards: replacement of the bridge will be tied to future building permits for new
units. All comments from affected agencies were included as suggested conditions
of approval.
Public Comment:
Zach Hanson of Van Horn Engineering and Surveying was present to represent the
applicant. He stated there is a generalized access easement across the property to
provide access to the home located adjacent to the southeast portion of the site. The
applicant is working with the homeowner to finalize a specific access easement.
It was moved and seconded (Pohl/Kitchen) to recommend approval of the
Preliminary Condominium Map, Streamside Cottages Phase I, Lot 1,
Streamside Amended Plat, to the Town Board of Trustees, with the findings
and conditions recommended by staff, and the motion passed unanimously.
CONDITIONS:
1. Compliance with memo from Estes Park Sanitation District to Dave Shirk dated
February 17, 2006.
2. Building envelope 5 shall not encroach into the building setback/easement.
3. Article 4 of the Declarations shall be amended to clarify that any additional units
shall be subject to approval of the Town of Estes Park in accordance with
applicable regulations of the then current Estes Valley Development Code, and
that approval of this map does not in any way imply approval of the proposed
number of units. This amendment shall be subject to review and approval of the
Town Attorney.
4. Article Vlll(a)(1) of the Declaration shall be amended as to what the residential
and commercial designations refer to, and how it relates to the units, and also
how applicable regulations of the Estes Valley Development Code are affected
by this provision. This amendment shall be subject to review and approval of the
Town Attorney.
5. The Declarations shall be amended to address the existing units in building
envelopes 5 and 6. This amendment shall be subject to review and approval of
the Town Attorney.
6. Compliance with memo from Greg Sievers (Public Works) to Bob Joseph revised
February 17, 2006. The AASHTO bridge will not be required until such time as a
building permit for a new unit on the south side of the river is applied for.
6. PRELIMINARY CONDOMINIUM MAP, The Pines Condominiums at Estes Park,
Lot 2, Pine Knolls Subdivision, 1155 S. St. Vrain Avenue, Applicant: Pines
Condominiums Development, Inc.
Planner Shirk reviewed the staff report. He stated this request is to allow the former
Pine Knoll Apartments, which were built in 1982 as affordable senior housing units,
to be subdivided and sold as individual condominium units. The Farmers Home
Administration (FHA) funding requirements that the property be managed as
affordable housing have expired. No additional development is proposed.
The site is approximately 2.5 acres and is zoned RM — Multi-Family Residential. The
lot contains forty-eight units in six buildings, a club house, and a parking lot. If built
today, the development would require eighty-four parking spaces; fifty-four are
provided. The construction of additional parking spaces is not required because this
is an existing development: however, planning staff recommends the condominium
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declaration address parking in order to prevent conflicts among future owners.
Planning staff also recommends that the access easement crossing the northeast
corner of the property be further delineated.
Estes Valley Development Code adequate public facilities standards are reviewed
and must be met with all condominium subdivisions, whether new construction or
conversion of existing units. This request was submitted to all applicable reviewing
agency staff and to neighboring property owners for consideration and comment.
Comments were received from the Town of Estes Park Public Works Department
and from Upper Thompson Sanitation District. Public Works’ comments regarding
drainage, the electric metering plan, water fixtures, and driveway entrances have
been included as recommended conditions of approval. Upper Thompson Sanitation
District requirements include upgrading the sewer collection system to current
standards and that the applicant provide a copy of the existing Joint Use and
Easement Grant with adjacent property owners Craig and Carol Rouch. No
comments were received from the Colorado Department of Transportation (CDOT)
or from Town Attorney White. Neighboring property owner Ada McCracken
contacted planning staff to inquire about the proposal but voiced no concerns when
she understood that the request does not include any additional construction. No
written comments were received from neighboring property owners.
Public Comment:
Mike Sollenberger, general partner of Estes Park Apartments, LLP, reviewed the
history and current status of the funding and operation of Pine Knoll Apartments. He
stated the partnership’s desire to condominiumize the units and that they are in
agreement with staff’s recommended conditions of approval 1 through 6, but object
to conditions 7 through 11. He referred to a letter from Attorney Lynn S. Jordan, one
of the five authors of the Colorado Common Interest Ownership Act (CClOA), which
states the staff findings and recommendations cannot be imposed when the change
under consideration is only in the form of ownership of the property.
Town Attorney White stated he had reviewed Attorney Jordan’s letter. This legal
question has been raised numerous times in regard to the Estes Valley
Development Code since its adoption in 2000. He stated the development code’s
adequate public facilities requirements have been consistently applied throughout
the Estes Valley planning area, both within and outside of Town limits, and that
CClOA does not limit the Town or County’s ability to impose adequate public
facilities requirements as conditions of approval for subdivision into condominiums.
Adequate public facilities requirements apply to any subdivision process. He noted
this issue remains untested in Colorado or U.S. courts.
Mike Todd of Cornerstone Engineering and Surveying commented on the Upper
Thompson Sanitation District requirement to upgrade the sewer line to current
standards, stating the existing sewer collection system meets the requirements of
the 2003 International Plumbing Code. Director Joseph recommended the applicant
present their concerns directly to the Upper Thompson Sanitation District Board of
Directors for their review.
Commissioner Hull stated her concerns about lack of adequate parking and
questioned Mr. Sollenberger where overflow parking would occur. Mr. Sollenberger
stated that a disclosure item to purchasers would be the limitation of only one
vehicle per unit.
Commissioner Kitchen questioned who would be responsible for the driveway
improvements since CDOT had constructed the driveway pans. Greg Sievers of the
Public Works Department responded, stating that even though the Highway 7 right-
of-way is owned and maintained by CDOT, it is the property owner who is
responsible for upgrades and maintenance of private driveways, including the
connection to the highway.
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Adjacent property owner Ada McCracken, of 1089 Pine Knoll Drive, stated her
objection to the proposed conversion of this property to condominium ownership.
She noted that parking will be inadequate and there will not be a place for visitors to
park. She stated her objection to the potential loss of tranquility in the neighborhood
and the impacts of additional traffic on Highway 7. Director Joseph stated it is not
within the power of the Planning Commission to require that the development remain
a senior-housing complex.
Discussion among the Commissioners followed regarding the applicant’s option of
appealing the sanitation district’s requirement to upgrade the sewer system directly
to the Upper Thompson Sanitation District Board of Directors prior to review by
Town Board on April 25, 2006.
Commissioner Kitchen stated she disagrees with recommended conditions of
approval 7 through 11; Commissioner Klink concurred, particularly in regard to the
requirement to upgrade the sewer system.
It was moved and seconded (Amos/Hix) to recommend approval of the
Preliminary Condominium Map, The Pines Condominiums at Estes Park, Lot 2,
Pine Knoll Subdivision, to the Town Board of Trustees, with the findings and
conditions recommended by staff, and the motion passed. Those voting in
favor: Amos, Eisenlauer, Hix, Pohl. Those voting against: Hull, Kitchen, Klink.
CONDITIONS:
1. The north arrow shall be corrected.
2. The access easement crossing the northeast corner of the property shall be
further delineated with a tie to a lot corner, distances, and directional bearings.
3. The condominium declarations shall include a section that regulates parking.
4. A water and electrical metering plan shall be submitted with the final map.
5. If future design or changes occur resulting in additional Fixture Value or Dwelling
Units, the property shall be required to increase the size of the water service line;
any cost associated with the increase in the water service line size shall be the
responsibility of the condominium association.
Any new water service line or existing service line replacement shall require a
Service Line Permit from the Building Department.
The sewer collection system shall meet current UTSD standards.
Per comments from the Upper Thompson Sanitation District, a Joint Use and
Easement Grant between 1151 S. St. Vrain and this project should be submitted
with the final map.
9. Typical concrete curb/gutter/cross pan details at the driveway connections shall
be provided.
10. Driveway width sizing shall meet Estes Valley Development Code standards
found in Appendix D.
11 .A stormwater plan shall be provided with the final map.
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Chair Pohl called a five-minute recess at 3:10 p.m.
7. PROPOSED CHANGE TO ESTES VALLEY DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION
4.4.D AND SECTION 13.3 TO ALLOW OUTDOOR ATMs AND
INTERNET/COMPUTER KIOSKS IN THE CD-Commercial Downtown ZONING
DISTRICT
Planner Shirk stated that a variance request approved in the summer of 2005
prompted planning staff to propose the addition of language in the Estes Valley
Development Code (EVDC) to allow (automated teller machines (ATMs) arid
internet/computer kiosks in the downtown area. He noted that banks are allowed in
the CD zoning district, but they can’t offer outside ATMs. There is already an existing
exception in the EVDC for outdoor seating and dining in the CD district; a portion of
the language for this proposed change was taken directly from the current EVDC.
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The additions would be made to Section 4.4.D.1.a.(3), Additional Zoning District
Standards, and to Section 13.3, Definitions, as follows:
§4.4.D Additional Zoning District Standards.
1. Operational Requirements.
a. Outdoor Sales. Use. Storage and Activity in the CD Zoning District.
(3) Exceptions.
(e) Automated Teller Machine (ATM) and Internet/Computer
Kiosks along an exterior building wall intended to serve walk-
up customers only. ATMs or kiosks shall not obstruct the
movement of pedestrians through plazas, along adjoining
sidewalks, or through other areas intended for public usage.
§13.3 Definitions
128.5 Internet/Computer Kiosk shaW mean a device that allows the public to
access the internet, send and retrieve e-mail, or access a computer.
These shall be integrated within existing buildings and shall not be
used to provide off-premise signage for other businesses. The
display shall comply with the adopted sign code.
Discussion followed, with Commissioners raising a variety of questions, including
whether other localities have similar language in their regulations; who would own,
operate, and maintain the proposed ATMs/kiosks; whether they could be free
standing; and whether the ATMs/kiosks would be regulated under the current sign
code regulations. Staff agreed to further define the proposed changes and present
them to the Planning Commission at the April meeting.
Public Comment:
None.
In order to allow staff to provide additional information, it was moved and
seconded (Hull/Klink) to continue the proposed additions to the Estes Valley
Development Code Section 4.4.D and Section 13.3 to allow outdoor ATMs and
Computer/Internet Kiosks in the CD-Commercial Downtown zoning district to
the April 18, 2006 Planning Commission meeting, and the motion passed
unanimously.
8. REPORTS
None.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 3:43 p.m.
Edward B. Pohl, Chair
ulie Roedere/ Recordi/g Secretary