HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Estes Valley Planning Commission 2008-03-18RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Regular Meeting of the Estes Valley Planning Commission
March 18, 2008,1:30 p.m.
Board Room, Estes Park Town Hall
Commission:
Attending:
Also Attending:
Absent:
Chair Ike Eisenlauer; Commissioners Wendeli Amos, Bruce Grant, Betty
Huii, Joyce Kitchen, Doug Kiink, and John Tucker
Chair Eiseniauer; Commissioners Amos, Grant, Hull, Kitchen, Kiink, and
Tucker
Director Joseph, Planner Shirk, Planner Chilcott, Town Attorney White,
Town Board Liaison Homeier, Public Works Director Zurn, and Recording
Secretary Roederer
None
The following minutes reflect the order of the agenda and not necessarily the chronological
sequence of the meeting.
Chair Eisenlauer called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
1. PUBLIC COMMENT
Ron Norris/President of the Association for Responsible Development expressed the
association’s strong support for expediting work on development of a wildlife policy and
open-space plan and for revisions to the Estes Valley Development Code addressing
building density requirements and building appearance standards. He summarized
updates received from Town staff on anticipated progress and emphasized that these
issues should continue to have high priority.
Lon SheldonA/an Horn Engineering requested that the Planning Commission provide
feedback for one of his clients on a potential subdivision request—specifically, whether
the Commission would consider negotiating the required infrastructure (water, roads, etc.)
in exchange for lower-density development on a parcel. Director Joseph stated the
Planning Commission can only provide an answer if they are provided with all the details
that pertain to the property. A complete application must be submitted for review.
Discussion followed regarding concept presentations, which are subject to staff review
and are routed to all affected agencies for review, and the public is notified and given time
to comment. Attorney White cautioned the Commission against giving advisory opinions
outside of the standard review process.
2. CONSENT AGENDA
a. Approval of minutes dated February 19, 2008
b. AMENDED PLAT, Lot 3, Horse Creek Ranch Subdivision, 3540 Littie Valley Road,
The Portfolio Group, lnc./Appiicant—Request to amend the piatted limits of
disturbance area
It was moved and seconded (Amos/Klink) to approve the minutes as presented,
and to recommend approval of the Amended Plat, Lot 3, Horse Creek Ranch
Subdivision, to the Board of County Commissioners, with the findings
recommended by staff, and the motion passed unanimousiy.
3. CONTINUATION OF HEARING from February 19, 2008 regarding REZONING
REQUEST and MINOR SUBDIVISION PLAT, KUNDTZ SUBDIVISION, Lot 1, Block 1,
Ferguson Subdivision, and a Portion of the SW Vi of the NE % of S25-T5N-R73W of
the 6th P.M., 821 E. Riverside Lane, Habitat for Humanity of Estes Vaiiey,
lnc./Applicant
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Chair Eisenlauer explained that this agenda item was presented at the February 19, 2008
Planning Commission meeting; the item was continued in order to take further public
comment. Comments will be accepted at today’s meeting only from those who have not
previously addressed the Commission on this matter.
Director Joseph noted that Commissioner Hull had raised questions regarding the lot
area. He expressed his desire to have the applicant’s engineer address this issue so that
the record is correct.
Lon SheldonA/an Horn Engineering stated the subdivision was platted in 1904 and
subsequently resurveyed in 1935. This resurvey left gaps between some of the lots; quiet
title action was used to join disconnected sections of the subdivision. The quiet title
documentation will become part of the permanent record of the Kundtz Subdivision plat.
Amy PlummerA/an Horn Engineering stated the lot sizes shown on the plat are correct.
The total lot size is 0.672 acres prior to road right-of-way dedication. The sizes of the
individual lots shown on the proposed subdivision plat are correct.
Commissioner Hull stated for the record that she has had private conversations with both
Habitat for Humanity board members and neighboring property owners since the February
meeting. Both sides of the issue were discussed. Nothing was discussed in her private
conversations that is not included in the material provided in the Planning Commission
packets or in letters received over the past month.
Public Comment:
The meeting was opened to public comment. Because approximately two hours of public
comment were received by the Planning Commission at the February meeting, comments
were limited to a maximum of three minutes in order to allow the Commissioners time to
deliberate and act on this request.
Those speaking in support of Habitat for Humanity (HfH) and/or in favor of the proposal
included Louise OIson/HfH Board Member, Dan Mangler/HfH Board Member, Patricia
Washburn/Town Resident, and Tim Hess/Town Resident. Arguments in favor included:
HfH Board members have met with neighboring property owners and listened to
neighborhood concerns; HfH will make every effort to choose families wisely with the help
of neighboring property owners and will develop mentorships for the new HfH families; the
adopted mission of the Town includes providing reliable services, which requires service
workers; the proposal is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan and EVDC and will help
actualize the Town’s vision statement; property values in the Estes Valley have
escalated—Estes Park should not become an economically gated community; there is
need to ensure diversity in our community; HfH families are hard-working, contributing
members of the community and should be integrated within the community; HfH families
should not be considered undesirable neighbors and should be approached directly if
adjoining neighbors have complaints or concerns; the bed-and-breakfast two lots away
from the proposed subdivision has much higher density than that contemplated by HfH, as
does the nearby RV park; three residences on this lot will not be detrimental to the
neighborhood; the Planning Commission should not be persuaded by NIMBYs.
Those expressing concern and/or speaking in opposition included Judy
Schreiber/Neighboring Property Owner, Michael Kellem/Neighboring Property Owner,
Millie and Roger Steketee/Neighboring Property Owners, and Kent Bosch/HOA President
of Charles Heights Association. Arguments against the applicant’s request included: the
lot should not be subdivided into three lots; neighbors’ concerns could be addressed if
review of certain aspects of the proposed development was required—the homes should
have natural wood finish and garage space should be provided to prevent junk
accumulation outdoors; applicants for the homes should be subjected to a rigorous
screening process; rezoning should not take place until the development is completed;
HfH in Boulder has built homes in locations that do not require rezoning—the local HfH
should do the same; HfH is proposing three homes on the lot because HfH paid too much
for the property; neighbors will be harmed by the subdivision; there is only room for two
homes on the lot; the residence on proposed Lot 2 will be located too close to the road
and too close to the southern property line and will be an eyesore; three homes is too
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dense for the 1/2-acre lot and will not blend with the neighborhood; neighbors’ property
values will decrease; HfH represents a worthwhile cause but made some bad decisions in
the purchase of this property and is trying to cram this proposal down the throat of the
neighbors in order to salvage its investment; there are critical problems with the proposal,
including safety concerns.
Ed Mularz/President of HfH and Matthew Heiser/Basis Architecture presented the
applicant’s closing remarks, summarized as follows: HfH has established a process for
mentoring HfH families; two meetings with neighbors have been held by HfH and letters
were sent to neighbors, asking for their participation in the selection process for the new
HfH families, as well as for assistance in the building phase so neighbors can help
determine the look and attributes of the new homes (siding materials, colors, etc.); some
slanderous remarks have been made regarding HfH’s monetary dealings and the
intentions of the HfH Board; HfH is not trying to make a profit but is trying to serve the
community by providing affordable housing; HfH requests that the Planning Commission
consider the attainable housing incentives provided in the EVDC and apply them to this
proposal; HfH searched hard for a suitable lot for this proposal; affordable housing is not
obtainable at market-rate costs; no other entity is building affordable housing to meet the
needs of HfH target families; the challenges to HfH development of a property would be
the same at any other location in the valley; HfH requests the Planning Commission
recommend approval of the proposal. The public comment portion of the meeting was
closed.
Commissioner Kitchen noted that some written comments from the public were received
as late as 11:00 a.m. today. She requested that the public submit comments prior to the
Wednesday before the Planning Commission meetings for inclusion in the informational
packets prepared for the Commissioners, thus allowing the Commissioners adequate time
to consider the comments.
Commissioner Amos stated that he participated in development of the Estes Valley
Development Code, which addresses attainable housing. At the time of EVDC adoption,
few attainable homes were available in the Estes Valley. The R-1 zoning district was
created to promote attainable housing because the value of land in the Estes Valley was
too costly for most entities or developers to build attainable housing. Two properties have
since been purchased, rezoned to R-1, and developed by HfH with no objections from
neighbors. Commissioner Amos served on the HfH Board for seven years and helped with
the purchase of the property under consideration. He had suggested that HfH build four
residences on the lot under consideration but the HfH Board chose to propose three. He
did not participate in the review of this proposal in May 2007 but is no longer on the HfH
Board. He stated he had not heard anything that would justify a recommendation for
denial of this project. Commissioner Amos stated he could not say that he is unbiased.
Commissioner Klink requested input from Town Attorney White, who stated that per
Colorado statutes, the only conflict of interest is a financial interest, which is not the case
with Commissioner Amos.
Commissioner Grant recused himself from commenting and voting on this agenda item
due to his absence from the February 18, 2008 Estes Valley Planning Commission
meeting.
Commissioner Tucker stated he had voted against this proposal when it was presented in
May 2007. However, HfH has since sought neighborhood involvement in the proposed
subdivision through creation of a homeowners association and limiting elements of the
proposed housing about which it had received complaints. He noted that there are four
duplexes used for nightly rental one lot away from the proposed subdivision. HfH has
made a commitment to constructing homes that look like they belong in the neighborhood
and seeks neighborhood involvement in the project. The proposed density is not out of
character with the neighborhood. He expressed support for the proposal.
Planner Shirk and Director Joseph stated the property is currently in unincorporated
Larimer County; HfH has petitioned for annexation to the Town. The annexation request,
rezoning request, and subdivision plat would be reviewed by the Town Board at their April
22, 2008 meeting. It is anticipated that the Town Board will be the decision-making body
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for these requests. Planner Shirk suggested that the rezoning request be conditioned on
approval of the minor subdivision plat.
It was moved and seconded (Amos/Tucker) to recommend approval of the request
for Rezoning of Lot 1, Block 1, Ferguson Subdivision, and a Portion of the SW % of
the NE y<\, of S25-T5N-R73W of the 6th P.M., from A-1-Accommodaf/ons zoning to
R-1 -Residential zoning to the Town Board of Trustees or the Board of County
Commissioners, with the findings and conditions recommended by staff, and the
motion passed with Commissioner Grant abstaining.
Those voting FOR: Amos, Eisenlauer, Kitchen, Tucker
Those voting AGAINST: Hull, Klink
CONDITIONS:
1. Approval of the Kundtz Minor Subdivision Plat.
Commissioner Hull stated she had voted against the motion because the current zoning of
A-1 would allow construction of two homes with storage sheds, which would be adequate.
She expressed her support for HfH and stated her opinion that two houses would be
sufficient for the lot. Commissioner Klink stated he had voted against the motion for the
same reason.
Commissioner Amos moved approval of the Minor Subdivision Plat. Commissioner Tucker
seconded the motion with the additional conditions shown below as Conditions #3 and #4.
Commissioner Amos agreed to the amended motion.
It was moved and seconded (Amos/Tucker) to recommend approval of the Minor
Subdivision Plat of Kundtz Subdivision, Lot 1, Block 1, Ferguson Subdivision, and a
Portion of the SW % of the NE 14 of S25-T5N-R73W of the 6th P.M., to the Town
Board of Trustees or Board of County Commissioners, with the findings and
conditions recommended by staff, and with the addition of Conditions #3 and #4,
and the motion passed with Commissioner Grant abstaining.
Those voting FOR: Amos, Eisenlauer, Kitchen, Tucker
Those voting AGAINST: Hull, Klink
CONDITIONS:
1. Approval of the Kundtz Annexation.
The deed restriction required by Section 11.4.E.5 shall be approved by Town Attorney
White prior to recordation of the plat.
Habitat for Humanity of Estes Valley, Inc. shall solicit and strive to ensure
neighborhood involvement in the selection of homeowners for the subdivision.
Habitat for Humanity of Estes Valley, Inc. shall form a homeowners association for the
subdivision and, via the homeowners association documents, shall limit parking to two
vehicles per lot and shall limit exterior paint and/or siding colors to muted earth tones
so as to blend aesthetically with the existing neighborhood.
A driveway maintenance agreement shall be submitted for recording with the final plat
mylar.
All interior drives shall be at least 20 feet deep.
Compliance with the following memos:
a. Mike Mangelsen to Bob Goehring dated January 22, 2008.
b. Jeff Boles to Bob Goehring dated January 22, 2008.
c. Town Attorney White dated January 21,2008.
d. Upper Thompson Sanitation District dated January 24, 2008.
e. Public Works dated February 6, 2008 (email).
8. The driveway shall be given a formal street name. A street sign and stop sign shall be
installed prior to issuance of a certificate of occupancy and shall comply with Town of
Estes Park standards.
9. The final stormwater management plan and construction plans shall be subject to
review and approval by the Public Works Department.
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4.CONCEPT PLAN PRESENTATION, ELKHORN LODGE REDEVELOPMENT, Four
Metes and Bounds Parcels (parcel identification numbers 35261-00-001, 35261-05-
046, 35261-06-001, 35252-53-018, Portion of 35261-06-001) and Outlot A, Sallee
Resubdivision, 600 West Elkhorn Avenue, Zahourek Conservatory, LLC/Owner,
Rock Castle Development CoVApplicant
Director Joseph stated the applicant will provide a concept plan presentation for a mixed-
use development on the Elkhorn Lodge property, which encompasses approximately 20
acres at the west end of downtown and an additional 40 acres on the hillside above the
Elkhorn Lodge. The 40-acre parcel is currently within unincorporated Larimer County but
is proposed to be annexed to the Town of Estes Park.
The applicant intends to propose a planned unit development (PUD) for the property. The
PUD process set forth in the Estes Valley Development Code (EVDC) provides the
opportunity for a more creative mixing of uses in close proximity and provides the
potential for greater flexibility in setback requirements and other dimensional standards.
The PUD process envisions the proposal of a higher-quality development, with higher
standards for design and for how well the proposal fits within the fabric of the existing
community. In the PUD process, the burden rests with the applicant to propose a project
that provides a compelling vision of desirability for the community. It is not a use by right.
The package of development is rewarded for good design.
Planning staff anticipates there will be a number of public hearings on this proposal,
beginning with a broad description of the project and progressing through finer levels of
detail as review progresses. Director Joseph encouraged the public to use the Community
Development Department’s web page for current information on the proposal. Comments
from the public are welcome at any time during the review.
Chair Eisenlauer called a five-minute recess at 2:45 p.m. to provide the applicant time to
set up a visual presentation; the meeting was reconvened at 2:53 p.m.
Applicant Presentation:
Frank Theis, representing Rock Castle Development Company, stated this is a large,
multi-use project and is very expensive. Due to the complexity of the project, the
developer began meeting with town staff on a weekly basis beginning in October 2007.
The PUD process includes rezoning the upper portion of the property, which is currently a
mix of RE-Rural Estate and E-Estate zoning, as well as approval of a subdivision plat.
The entire property must be zoned CO-Commercial Outlying in order to be overlayed with
a PUD. The subdivision plat must be approved in order for the developer to move forward
with the purchase agreement for the property.
Due to the complexity of the project, the concept plan will be presented at today’s meeting
with more detailed review, including development plans, to follow. For the April Planning
Commission meeting, the applicant will provide wildlife, wetlands, hydrology, noise, fire,
and other detailed studies.
The proposal includes renovation of the Elkhorn Lodge, which is one of five structures on
the property that are on the historic register. The lodge is in poor condition and will require
significant financial investment to restore. There has been negative environmental impact
to Fall River by horses kept for the riding stable at the lodge.
The upper forty acres is proposed for development as a single-family residential
subdivision. Mr. Theis stated the subdivision is planned with sensitivity to wildlife
movement. Over 30% of this area is proposed to be set aside as open space, including
the steepest portion of the property, an open-space corridor through the center, and a 50-
foot buffer on all sides, which provides a 50% larger setback than is required.
Multi-family development is proposed on Lot B-1, and the applicant has met with the
Housing Authority to discuss the possibility of developing attainable housing on this lot.
The main commercial core is proposed around the Elkhorn Lodge building, with a
combination of apartment-type units and duplexes similar to those found at Mary’s Lake
Lodge to be constructed on the western portion of that area. These units would be
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controlled and rented through the lodge. Construction of these units and a new wing
addition on the lodge would provide a total of approximately 100 accommodations units.
The new wing of the lodge would include suites, a spa, and an indoor pool.
The applicant proposes multi-family units along Fall River to buffer the existing single
family-residential neighborhood that adjoins the property. The applicant is requesting
accommodations density for these units, which will be “high-end, apartment-type” units.
A commercial, pedestrian-scale street with parking on both sides (similar to downtown
Estes Park) is proposed to connect the lodge with new multi-use buildings. The multi-use
buildings would provide retail space at the ground level and apartments on the second
floor.
A park area is proposed, approximately two acres in size, which would include extension
of the riverwalk from downtown. Approximately 1,000 feet of riverwalk is proposed through
the property. The applicant also proposes to restore Fall River and a wetlands area; no
horses would remain on the property.
A trail would connect from the riverwalk through a Town-owned, open-space property
between Elkhorn Lodge and Old Ranger Drive; this trail would split into several trails on
the upper 40 acres (proposed single-family subdivision) and connect to the existing trail
into Rocky Mountain National Park. The applicant proposes a trailhead with public parking
on the Town-owned property.
Mr. Theis listed the benefits to the community as: economic impacts, provision of a
western bypass road, renovation of the Elkhorn Lodge, attainable housing apartments,
restoration of Fall River, a new park, rivenvalk, and a Deer Ridge Trail connection.
The applicant proposes to construct approximately one mile of road to provide a bypass
from West Elkhorn Avenue to Elm Road and has been working with the Town Board to
determine its exact location. There are two possibilities for the terminus of the proposed
bypass road where it would join West Elkhorn Avenue—alignment with James Street or
alignment with Far View Drive. The developer has agreed to construct the road through to
West Elkhorn Avenue at the existing entrance to the property (currently the driveway into
the Elkhorn Lodge), with the Town Board to determine to final road alignment. The
developer will provide easements for both road alignments, with one to be abandoned
once a determination has been made.
The developer has met with Colorado Division of Wildlife Officer Rick Spowart. Currently
the upper 40 acres proposed for the single-family residential subdivision is used for
hunting. Development of the subdivision will have a negative impact on the yearly harvest.
However, the applicant has provided a corridor for wildlife movement to the residential
property to the east. The habitat for wildlife along Fall River will be enhanced; wetlands
and the fishery will be restored.
Mr. Theis expressed hope that the final plat will be approved by July at the latest. The first
phase of the project will be development of the single-family residential subdivision (Big
Bear Estates), which will provide funding to pay for road construction costs. Renovation of
the Elkhorn Lodge is planned next, followed by additional single-family development, then
development of Lot B-1 and Lot B-2. Road work will begin in fall of 2008, if the final plat is
approved by July. Utilities must be installed; paving would begin in summer of 2009.
Development of the commercial core would be the last phase of the project and will be
based on demand. Mr. Theis estimated that development of this portion of the project will
be at least four to five years in the future.
Planning Commission Comment/Discussion:
Commissioner Hull stated the following: Having the bypass road completed in the first
phase was one of her concerns. There is not enough parking for commercial retail; shared
parking will not work because the retail businesses will be open into the evening hours in
summer. Retail space on the second floor of the commercial buildings is not likely to work.
Mr. Theis acknowledged that a completed parking study determined that the shared
parking does not meet the required standards. He stated the Town had urged the
developer to put in as much commercial space as possible and that the applicant
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proposes a better ratio of parking than currently serves downtown. Very little retail space
is proposed on the second floor of the commercial buildings, although the second floor of
those buildings will be at the same level as the main level of the Elkhorn Lodge [due to the
slope of the property].
Commissioner Tucker stated that survival of retail business is based on tourists and
asked what the developer would do to draw more people to town. He questioned whether
the applicant had considered an ice-skating rink. Mr. Theis stated Bob Koehler (Rock
Castle Development Co.) has done a lot of retail development at the national level. At one
time the plans included an ice rink, but that was taken out. A private park/open space has
been set aside in front of the lodge that could be used for something in the future. The
biggest draw will be restoration of the Elkhorn Lodge in a first-class way, with wonderful
restaurants and a really nice commercial center. The area could provide another location
for conventions, although the developer does not want to compete with the existing
convention center.
Commission Amos noted that another recent development proposal is on hold pending
design changes to accommodate wildlife. The proposed Big Bear Estates Subdivision is a
dense development; he stated his desire to see more open-space corridors through this
single-family subdivision to accommodate wildlife. Mr. Theis listed open areas for wildlife
movement, including a corridor that is a major drainage running from northwest to
southeast through the proposed Big Bear Estates Subdivision, a proposed underpass at
the bypass road for people and wildlife, and the area along the river corridor. He agreed to
take Commissioner Amos’ comments into account.
Commissioner Hull also expressed concern about the proposed density of the Big Bear
Estates Subdivision. She stated Estes Valley Development Code (EVDC) Section 9.1.C
provides for a process that “can relate the type, design, and layout of residential and
commercial development to the particular site, thereby encouraging the preservation of
the site’s natural characteristics, and to encourage integrated planning...” She noted the
applicant’s proposed average lot size is 0.25 to 0.50 acre. The proposed 57 houses with
driveways and garages on these small lots will result in a lot of paving in a small area.
She acknowledged the applicant had provided open space, as per EVDC requirements,
but stated her objection to such heavy development in that area. She noted that lessening
of density was an issue presented at the recent joint study session with the Board of
County Commissioners and Town Board. Mr. Theis stated the EVDC Section 9.1.B
encourages a more efficient use of land and public sen/ices... so that resulting economies
may benefit those who need homes. He also cited Section 9.3, which states the PUD-M
district is intended to promote developments with a balanced mix of commercial and
residential uses that provide services and employment opportunities in close proximity to
residents of the district. He stated the applicant is trying to cluster development to
maximize open space and meet the spirit of the PUD requirements. He stated it is very
expensive to purchase the property, build the bypass road, renovate the historic lodge,
and give a significant piece of property to the Housing Authority. He acknowledged that
the developer is requesting upzoning and is seeking a balance to meet community needs.
Commissioner Grant questioned whether development of the commercial core would take
place as the final phase, noting it is a significant part of the PUD. Mr. Theis stated the
commercial core encompasses a large area; the Town has indicated that building permits
for single-family residential development will not be issued until a certain portion of the
commercial core has been developed. However, build-out of the commercial core will be
based on demand.
In response to additional questions from the Commissioners, Mr. Theis stated the
applicant envisions development of approximately 2,000 square feet of office space with
storage units on proposed Lot 1, most of which would be rented by residents of the
subdivision. This lot would be located between the single-family residential subdivision
and the l-^-lnclustrial area to the south. Prices of homes in this subdivision are planned to
range between $600,000 and $700,000. Commissioner Hull expressed concern that there
would be enormous homes on small lots. Mr. Theis stated the homes would be 2,400 to
3,000 square feet in size. Commissioner Grant echoed Commissioner Amos’ concerns
regarding wildlife corridors through the proposed Big Bear Estates Subdivision, noting the
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corridor shown on the plans appears to dead-end in the subdivision. Mr. Theis contended
that an access/utility easement connects to the apparent dead-end, providing a corridor
up to 150 feet wide. The 50-foot setbacks surrounding the subdivision will also provide
room for wildlife movement. He stated that the proposed density of the subdivision is very
similar to that of Carriage Hills Subdivision and is virtually the same density as the
adjacent Elkhorn Club Estates. Although the applicant had not originally envisioned
attainable housing as part of the development, attainable housing was added at the
request of planning staff; 30 attainable apartment units are envisioned on Lot B-1.
Mr. Theis went on to state the bypass road will be a significant benefit to the community
and will provide an emergency access link to downtown, which could save lives in the
event of a wildfire, as well as providing a convenience to locals when summer traffic is
heavy. He stated that development of a well-planned subdivision is also a benefit to the
community, noting that development of a few homes would not pay for the bypass road.
He stated the applicant’s traffic study indicated traffic volume on the bypass road will be
very similar to that on Mall Road. Commissioner Kitchen noted that access to Elkhorn
Avenue and Moraine Avenue is very difficult for large vehicles such as those that access
the industrial area. Mr. Theis stated that the Colorado Department of Transportation has
indicated there is currently no warrant for a traffic signal on Moraine Avenue, nor is there
a warrant indicated following build-out of the proposed development. There is ongoing
discussion as to whether truck traffic should be limited on the proposed bypass road. No
left-turn lanes at the Elkhorn Avenue entrance or the Moraine Avenue entrance are
currently warranted; they will be constructed once they are warranted.
Public Comment:
Linda Farrell/Adjacent Property Owner stated the proposed bypass road, bridges, and
traffic lights should be in the middle of the development, not on the extremities, so as to
minimize impact to adjacent property owners. She expressed concern about impacts to
the river quality and sewer lines. Construction traffic should not use the current driveway
entrance to the Elkhorn Lodge, which passes directly by her condominium. Parking should
be kept outlying; shuttle-bus use should be promoted; tranquility should be preserved; tall
structures, traffic, and noise should not be allowed adjacent to neighboring properties.
The bypass road should not be extended from West Elkhorn Avenue to Highway 34;
bypass users should drive west on Elkhorn Avenue; James Street and Far View Drive
should not be affected by the bypass.
Dan Herlihey/Town Property Owner presented six slides showing views of the area
proposed for development of the Big Bear Estates Subdivision. He expressed concern
that the density for these single-family lots of 14 to I/2 acre is out of character with the
surrounding area, noting that the applicant proposes a fourfold increase in density over
what is allowed under the current zoning of the property, and concern about the visual
impact of 57 homes located on a prominent ridgeline location. He also expressed concern
about the alignment of the proposed bypass road and the link to Wonderview Avenue
(Hwy. 34), noting that Far View Drive is a minor road with sharp curves and steep grade,
which is not designed to carry additional traffic volume.
Director Joseph responded that the site is subject to ridgeline development standards,
which prevent construction of buildings such that they are silhouetted against the sky.
These standards also require retention of existing vegetation to provide screening. New
structures are subject to color/material restrictions to provide a finished product that
blends with the natural setting.
Mary Lamy/Adjacent Property Owner expressed concern that the proposed density is
excessive, noting the proposed open space in the single-family subdivision is in an
unbuildable area. The proposed homes clustered on tiny lots are not in keeping with the
surrounding properties; parcels to the east of the proposed subdivision are all large lots.
Larger setbacks should be required on the commercial lots adjoining the riparian area.
She asked that the Town ensure that the developer can proceed with the proposal, given
the current credit crisis. She stated the role of the Town is not to ensure the developer’s
bottom line—it is to consider all the people in the Estes Valley. She stated this is a huge
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tract with many uses and is a critical piece of land. Time should be taken to review the
proposal; the push for approval by July is poor planning.
Ron Norris/Association for Responsible Development stated ARD members have met with
the developer and concerned neighbors but does not yet have a position on the proposal.
The proposal has a number of desirable features, including restoration of the lodge and
river, potential revenue for the town, and engagement of the Division of Wildlife to assess
impact of the proposed development on wildlife. Careful consideration should be given to
housing density, location of attainable housing, the amount of retail proposed, the route
and steep grade of the proposed bypass road, and development of the Big Bear Estates
Subdivision adjacent to the existing quarry. Special emphasis should be given to the flow
of information between the multiple agencies involved in the review of this project; review
should not be rushed.
Sandy Osterman/Town Resident questioned how the proposed bypass road would affect
downtown traffic and businesses, expressed concern that tourists would not visit the
downtown area, and questioned the traffic count comparison of the bypass road to Mall
Road.
George Hockman/Town Resident stated if the proposed bypass road resembles Mocassin
bypass, it will be inadequate for the future needs of Estes Park. The bypass should be the
equivalent of a two-lane U.S. highway in terms of width, setbacks, and a maximum grade
of 7%. The road should be planned first, with the remainder of the development planned
around the road. A suitable bypass is more important than any other aspect of the
proposal, including density and open space. Once development is completed,
transportation deficiencies cannot be corrected.
Ron Hinkle/Neighboring Property Owner expressed concern about the proposed bypass
road, wetlands and the use of the lot identified as wetlands, and issues of runoff, flooding,
and erosion of Fall River at properties downstream of the Elkhorn Lodge property. He
contended there will be flooding at The Willows properties and in the Filbey Court area,
noting that problems currently exist. He requested that any final approval of the proposed
development address potential erosion of the Fall River bank at the bridge and potential
flooding of existing residences. Regarding the extension of the bypass road to Highway
34, he stated use of Far View Drive is not an option—it is a bad road now. There is only
one exit out of The Willows development because the east exit is gated.
Verd Bailey/Adjoining Property Owner reiterated concerns expressed by Linda Farrell as
noted above. He also expressed concern about the removal of the waterfall located
behind his property, noting the waterfall serves as a buffer for traffic noise and from
neighbors; removal of the waterfall will devalue his property. He urged a prompt decision
on the location of the river crossing for the bypass road.
Marie Steinbrecher/Adjoining Property Owner expressed concern about the proposed
location for attainable housing on a steeply sloped portion of the property, changing the
flow of Fall River, impacts of the development on wildlife, and whether the spirit of the law
is being followed. She stated neighbors’ concerns are not being taken into consideration.
The proposal should be considered carefully and responsibly. Other buyers are interested
in purchasing the property for green development.
Rob Hicks/Adjoining Property Owner stated he does not want the waterfall removed. The
current driveway for Elkhorn Lodge would not make a good road. He expressed concern
that the amount of traffic, which is estimated as 4,000 cars/day by 2030, would be a “lot of
traffic over that road.” He objected to the proposed entrance to the development [at
Elkhorn Avenue] and requested that the bridge be moved to the center of the property. He
asked the Commissioners to make their decision as if they lived next door to the proposed
development.
Dave Shirk/Neighboring Property Owner stated he will be particularly impacted by the
proposed bypass road. Far View Drive was not designed for much traffic; improvements
to the road will have to be made. He questioned who will pay for these improvements. He
requested the Commissioners recommend installation of a traffic circle rather than a
signal light at the bypass road intersection with West Elkhorn Avenue. He expressed
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support of the concept for redevelopment of the Elkhorn Lodge property: however, design
guidelines should be adhered to. For instance, lighting requirements should be tightened
to prohibit exposed bulbs.
Heather Stone/Neighboring Property Owner stated it has been disturbing to hear there
may be a concrete overpass to James Street or homes torn down along Far View Drive.
She and her husband have lived here 38 years and just built their dream home—she
doesn’t want an overpass over her bedroom. She stated that downtown businesses may
be devastated by a bypass up Far View Drive or James Street because business will be
removed from the downtown area.
John Spahnie/Adjoining Property Owner expressed concern about Lot B-1, which is
proposed as a multi-family-residential lot that may be sold to the Housing Authority and is
directly adjacent to his property. If this lot is sold to the Housing Authority, the developer
will no longer control what happens on the lot. He also expressed objection to connection
from the bypass road to Old Ranger Road and his desire to have that connection
eliminated. He requested lighting restrictions be imposed as suggested by Dave Shirk. He
stated the proposed development will have a great deal of impact on the Elkhorn Club
Estates Subdivision.
Wes Allbritten/Neighboring Property Owner questioned whether the developer will be the
owner/operator of the lodge when it is complete. Mr. Theis responded. Yes.
Vee O’Farrell/Neighboring Property Owner stated if a community is not sustairiing a high-
oualitv of life it is not desirable. He stated his belief that the proposed development wil
have a negative impact environmentally and economically. He pointed out that the nearby
condominiums in Fall River Village and Rivers Pointe Downtown have not sold. He urged
the Commissioners to think of the community and neighboring property owners and also
stated other purchasers are interested in green development of the property.
Frank Theis provided concluding remarks, noting the applicant has met with ne|9^^°riJ19
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Chair Eisenlauer called a five-minute recess at 4:25 p.m.; the meeting reconvened at 4:30
p.m.
5.
proposed amendments to the ESTES VALLEY DEVELOPMENT CODE, BLOCK
11 — Aooeals and Vacation Home Regulations
Due to the lateness of the f“'“'fSngto^ad'LVsIhe"
take comment from members of the public g presentation and Planning
B:rN”por«oiio Group st^ed she h ^or
income purposes. The deve|opment code is behmd dwrelTng units. The current
*o define. Propedy owners want guest
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houses for privacy. The fact that a 35-acre property can’t have a separate dwelling unit is
outrageous.
Linda Farrell/Town Resident requested a summary of the amendments regarding appeals.
Attorney White explained there had recently been an appeal to the Town Board of a
Planning Commission decision; however, there is nothing in the development code that
specifies what the procedure for appeals is, when the appeal must be filed and will be
heard, or what documents should accompany the appeal. The proposed code changes
provide guidelines for these procedures. Commissioner Kitchen requested that concerns
be addressed that were outlined in a letter received from Paul Kochevar. Attorney White
indicated that Mr. Kochevar’s concerns that the appeal process would be used to delay a
project were unfounded. There is no present requirement in the Code that the Town
Board set a date for review of an appeal or act within a certain timeframe; the proposed
amendments specify that the appeal must be heard within 60 days. Ms. Farrell stated a
short timeframe may prove to be a hardship for out-of-town property owners and
requested the amendments take into account such situations.
Matthew Heiser/Town Resident requested consideration of a change to the development
code regarding the 80%-of-median-income standard for affordable housing. He urged the
Commission to consider code standards that would allow a scale between 80% of median
income up to as much as 150% of the market rate for an affordable home.
Judy Anderson/Anderson Realty and Management cautioned that the proposed
amendments to vacation home regulations attempt to fix things that aren’t problems, such
as not allowing housekeeping services in vacation homes or providing food for vacation
home renters. She stated that those staying in a residence longer than a week may desire
housekeeping services; vacation home guests should be able to receive a wdcome
basket or have a catered dinner. She expressed a desire to have all vacation homes
treated equally in terms of licensing and taxes on individual residences. She stated 30 /o
of vacation homes are rented by the property owners, who often don’t conform to any of
the rules—property owners should be held to the same standards as rental management
comoanies When asked by Commission Kitchen for her suggestions on how to enforce re^r||^ions,eshe suggeLd additional staff time should be devoted to searching the
internet to discern which homes are being rented and mailing letters to property owners
outlining the applicable regulations. She stated many recent offenses could have been
handled by neighbors phoning the code enforcement officer. She stated a mmority of
private homeowners obtain the required business license. Town Attorney White noted that
a business license is required only if the property is within Town limits and stated there is
no ready sltbn to the problern of internet rentals by non-resident property owners^
Director Joseph indicated it would be possible to look at a rental property website and S Whethe? thrp ope^ owner has obtained a business license and whether the renta
If h qeneraf compP|iance with the limit on the total number of guests allowed without
having to add more town staff. Ms. Anderson stated management companies limit the
total number of guests to eight people per residence, as required by the code, however
50% of the units found on the FRBO website offer accommodations for nine
people. She questioned why there is a limit of eight guests if a residence has f've
bedrooms Professional property managers require a three-night minimum stay and do
nofconTuct nS rental She stated vacation home rentals are driven by the way the
oubHc chooses to vacation. Estes Park appeals to families; it is too expensive for a ten-
nprson familv to stay in a hotel. Commissioner Tucker stated the intent of zoning is to
rnnstrain certain types of living and commercial uses in certain areas. Residential zoning
homes tat arused for short-term rentals pay commercial property tax rates. She
indicated she would not.
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6. REPORTS
No reports were presented; discussion regarding possible future changes to Estes Valley
Development Code sections that pertain to accessory dwelling units will be held at a
future Planning Commission meeting.
Chair Eisenlauer adjourned the meeting at 5:00 p.m.
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Ike Eisenlauer, Chair
Juli^Roederer, l%cording Secretary