HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Technical Review Committee 2020-08-24 Carriage House Town of Estes Park, Larimer County, Colorado, August 24, 2020
Minutes of a Regular meeting of the Technical Review Committee of the
Town of Estes Park, Larimer County, Colorado. Meeting held Virtually in
said Town of Estes Park on the 24 day of August, 2020.
Committee: Chair Town Administrator Travis Machalek, Public Works
Director Greg Muhonen, Fairgrounds and Events Director
Rob Hinkle, Mike Wisneski, John Gagnon
Attending: Chair Machalek, Greg Muhonen, Rob Hinkle, Mike Wisneski,
John Gagnon, Community Development Director Randy Hunt,
Town Attorney Dan Kramer, Jennifer Waters, David Hook,
Vanessa Solesbee, Steve Rusch, Fire Marshal Kevin
Sullivan, Chief Building Official Gary Rusu
Absent: Architectural Review Committee members Jack Cook, Curtis
Martin
Chair Machalek called the meeting to order at 3:00 p.m.
AGENDA APPROVAL
It was moved and seconded (Wisneski/Muhonen) to approve the agenda. The motion
passed 5-0.
Director Hunt instructed viewers that they could call the Recording Secretary to be added
to the attendee list for public comment.
AGENDA ITEM BEING DISCUSSED.
Director Hunt reviewed the staff report for the Stanley Hotel Carriage House. Two
elements, restaurant use architectural renderings and what is being reviewed. The
Master Plan speaks of restaurants (plural). Staff is recommending approval by the TRC,
with conditions.
Attorney Kramer asked David Hook, Public Works Manager, to provide more information
on public improvements to which he answered that sidewalk connectivity would probably
be the only issue that would come up.
Utilities Coordinator Rusch noted that the July 2019 pre app requested verification that
all buildings on Lot 1 need back flow and metering of water.
Applicant Presentation:
Jack Mousseau, MOA Architecture, walked through the renderings and definitions of the
project, including the current status and landscape modifications that have been made to
help mitigate viewshed concerns. Berms approximately 6 feet in height are being
strategically placed in the parking lots for neighbors to the east.
Discussion:
Gagnon and Wisneski suggested keeping the original character and simplicity of the
building. Sidewalk in a different development agreement and 420 feet great distance
away from project? PW request to Connect to other existing access points. Offer
connecting new cdot sidewalk from round about. Most traffic is coming to hotel, not
carriage house.
Wisneski-concern about sidewalk connecting to private lot of Stanley village.
Stewart Olive, sidewalk not reasonable related to project. Public improvement not
associated with project. Unconstitutional condition. Water conditions also. Noting to do
with carriage house proposal. Redo 100 years of plumbing.
Cullen 19 permitted, 16 found. Noting to do with ch project. Off premise conditions.
Steamer drive is someone else’s property and encumbered by lot 4 dev agreement.
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Muhonen…dev plan for lot 1? Development area within lot 1. Land development
common practice that entire lot be upgraded to comply. Hunt good industry practice.
One building permit brought up to code, not all buildings.
If questions, master plan guidelines prevail over code. Vested right.
Muhonen complimented Cullen and Mousseau, impressed with presentation and actions
responding to neighbors.
Pedestrian connection is goal.
Public Comment:
Ed Hayek expressed concerns with traffic impact,. lights will shine into his living room.
the large electric box that was installed on the lot line and parking.
Jim and Ruth Kelley, agree with Mr. Hayek and reviewed their concerns that were
submitted with the packet.
Cherie Schuch noted that John Cullen has worked with them and allowed them to pick
their own landscaping. She absolutely is against a fence.
Applicant Response:
There is no occupied roof on carriage house.
Kasia Bukowski, type 5 building, original construction of roof, building code requires part
of roof to be metal.
Lighting required by building codes at certain levels.
Overhead lighting not wanted.
White bollards, dark sky compliant.
Points of egress need overhead lighting.
Dense landscape buffer will be installed on the east side which is well beyond what is
required.
Historic society adamantly against fence.
Occupancy 139 inside. Will be reviewed by fire and at building permit stage.
TRC Discussion
Director Muhonen circulating pattern for thru traffic on overlook lane?
Design does not incentivize cut thru traffic.
North occupants should stay on access drive, not cut through parking lot.
Hunt stated that Pre app went to CDOT and there was no response.
Traffic Impact Study: roadways can accommodate the project. Table 1, delay in level of
service highlighted in red, does application comply with operational standards? DF
Cassie Slade, yes it does comply. EF highlighted to bring attention. Town Standards are
level of service D, table is level service F, how is this compliant? Signal timing? Fred
does not have timing, used intersection to the west timing. Adjustment to demonstrate in
can be compliant. This was a very complicated discussion and should be shortened to a
sentence or two
Air intake material is finished concrete, precast cap, primarily underground, other exposed
concrete areas around complex.
Future Signage will need approval from city
Grease exhaust hood permitted.
Sidewalk connection to rest of campus original intent when film center is built.
Kevin Sullivan, Fire Marshall, permit is in review, fire department has not submitted
comment thus far.
Rob Hinkle, south side 3 swing doors, not garage doors.
Attorney Kramer, conditions or requirements parking placed by town not a review
of parking, review of carriage house development, not whole campus. If issues with
off site that affect carriage house, fair game.
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Backflow requirements, municipal code lot undergo review and verification rationally
related to rest of lot.
Kevin Sullivan fire protection water supply and fire hydrants? Has been done!
David Hook, traffic…………. landscape grading not approved by pw, plan is from 2019.
Machalek-noise concerns, Cullen patio on south side, away from residents, hours will
comply with town code, breakfast on weekends,
Steve Rusch, backflow and water meters, all part of Lot 1, now is the time to verify
compliance, applicant given info 13 months ago.
Condition not in motion, email
Kramer, preliminary stage, final package would involve more detail. Give staff more time
to draft condition in final stage. Not recommend kicking can down road. Pedestrian
connectivity similar approach.
Cullen: not this committees purview, water and sidewalks don’t belong in TRC.
Cullen requested a 2-part approval: approve the building so it can be enclosed, conditions
can be a separate process.
CBO Rusu and Director Hunt affirmed that the building could continue. The current permit
is for core and shell. Separate out structural and add to existing permit with modifications.
A 10-minute recess was taken to allow Attorney Kramer to compose a motion. The
meeting resumed at 6:45 p.m.
It was moved and seconded (Gagnon/Muhonen) to approve the resolution presented
on screen by Attorney Kramer. The motion passed 4-0, with Member Wisneski
unavailable.
There being no further business, Chair Machalek adjourned the meeting at 7:00 p.m.
Travis Machalek, Chair
Karin Swanlund, Recording Secretary