HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Estes Valley Planning Commission 2010-10-19RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Regular Meeting of the Estes Valley Planning Commission
October 19, 2010,1:30 p.m.
Board Room, Estes Park Town Hall
Commission:
Attending:
Also Attending:
Absent:
Chair Ron Norris, Commissioners Doug Klink, Alan Fraundorf, John
Tucker, Betty Hull, and Rex Poggenpohl
Chair Norris, Commissioners Klink, Fraundorf, Tucker, Hull, and
Poggenpohl
Director Joseph, Town Attorney White, Planner Shirk, Planner Chilcott,
Town Board Liaison Elrod, and Recording Secretary Thompson
One vacancy.
The following minutes reflect the order of the agenda and not necessarily the chronological
sequence.
Chair Norris called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m. There were two people in attendance.
Chair Norris announced that Commissioner Lane has moved his principal residence out of the
Estes Valley: therefore, he was no longer eligible to maintain his position on the Planning
Commission. Chair Norris and the other Commissioners thanked him for his time and service
on the Commission. Commissioner Lane was a Larimer County representative, and the
county will be responsible for finding his replacement.
1. PUBLIC COMMENT
None.
2. CONSENT AGENDA
Approval of minutes from September 21, 2010 Planning Commission meeting. It was
noted that the mylar due date for Marys Lake Lodge Development Plan 00-07D should be
October 21,2010 instead of September 21,2010.
It was moved and seconded (Hull/Poggenpohl) that the consent agenda be approved
as corrected, and the motion passed unanimously, with one vacancy.
3. PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS (PUDs)
Planner Chilcott stated staff has been focusing on identifying what could be accomplished
with amended PUD regulations that could not otherwise be achieved with the current
zoning regulations. Last month. Staff was given direction by Planning Commission to draft
visual tools to help engage the public and to articulate some desired outcomes, beginning
with a hypothetical analysis of Moraine Avenue and Cleave Street. It was important to
stress that these examples were purely hypothetical, and used only as a starting point to
conceptualize what a PUD might do in different areas. Staff researched a variety of
options as ways to discuss desired outcomes where superior design and/or public
amenities could be incentivized. Possible incentives could be changes in density, height
restrictions, setbacks, parking, etc. Planner Chilcott gave several visual examples of
different looks for multi-story buildings that could be used to generate public discussion.
Moraine Avenue could be used to visualize different options, such as commercial
highway-oriented activity close to the highway, with various other uses mixed in between
the highway and the river. Open spaces, trails, etc., could also be included in the
examples. Based on information provided at the last meeting. Planner Chilcott designed
a sample survey that could be completed by the public to gain feedback on PUD options.
Planning Commissioner’s comments included: adding space on the survey for public
comment; creating general lists of possible attributes for the community and benefits for
the developer: the pros and cons of architectural controls; the PUD process as an opt-in
process; focus on physical attributes rather than style. Commissioner Poggenpohl
suggested allowing staff to take time to create a quality questionnaire. There was general
consensus to use sketches rather than photographs to keep specific locations out of the
survey. Commissioner Fraundorf suggested creating questions that result in very clear
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and specific answers, and emphasized the importance of being able to act on the survey
results. Planner Chilcott stated there could be attributes of a PUD that would be more
suited to some areas than others. Planner Chilcott will proceed with developing the
survey.
Public Comment:
Sandy Osterman/Town Resident suggested using caution when relating to specific areas
in the community, as the ideas may not come across as hypothetical. She also questioned
who the “public” was, residents or visitors? If you incorporate trails, paths, parks, etc. then
there is more for everyone to benefit from.
Chair Norris closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Klink wanted assurance that the Town Board was in favor of moving
fonward with the PUD study. Planner Chilcott replied that the Town Board reviewed the
PUD problem statement, and staff recommended that a sample visual preference study
would be compiled and presented to the Town Board. It would be their decision as to
whether or not to proceed. Commissioner Hull would appreciate knowing each Town
Board member’s position on this topic before moving forward. Commissioner Klink
recommended creating another PUD problem statement with detailed ideas so Town
Board could give specific directions for proceeding with code revisions. He would like to
have direction from the Town Board prior to staff spending time on designing a survey.
Commissioner Norris stated the Planning Commission should consider an updated
dialogue with the Town Board to work out the important details prior to moving forward.
Director Joseph stated the focus needed to rest on the trade-offs. One side of the scale
has the upside for the private sector (more density, bulk, increased floor area ratio) and
on the flipside what the developer would bring to the table. How you mix and match those
offsetting tradeoffs was something that would need to be sorted out on a case-by-case
basis. It could be difficult to create a mechanical formula, although one municipality has
adopted a weighted point system that could begin to serve as such. Director Joseph
suggested illustrating the proposed lists of attributes. Town Attorney White recommended
submiWng to the Town Board something concrete and tangible, not conceptual. Chair
Norris directed staff to create two lists of attributes, one with possible community benefits
and one with possible developer benefits. Where applicable, illustrate with sketches He
also suggested planning a joint study session with the Town Board to discuss the future
direction of PUDs.
4. OUTDOOR DI^LAY OF MERCHANDISE - Proposed amendment to the Estes Valley
Code (EVDC) Section 8.1 COMPLIANCE WITH TOWN AND COUNTY
SIGN CODES, and EVDC Section 5.3.D.1 Temporary Seasonal and Holiday Sales.
Planner Chilcott stated the proposed code amendment for the outdoor display of
merchandise originated through a request from the Sign Code Task Force. The outdoor
.TX0Lmfr^handlSe Cr:ently resides in the si9n code, and the task force members
r^owoi th 1 1 Jeri?ve? from the sign code and implemented into the Estes Valley
nf tho ^m?nt c0de’ The.focus of the proposed amendment was primarily on the location
nLnldlSPH y' So1,J® Port,°ns address the display size, if the display is more permanent in
PhiilJ^ft a+n(^ d Imit the dlsplay t0 250/0 of the flo°r area of the building. Planner
Chilcott stated the recommendation from staff would add to the EVDC a limit for the size
of temporary displays to be no more than 10% of the gross lot area. An applicant could
apply for a temporary use permit for temporary retail sales for a period of up to 60 days
1 nS tefnJh°,ia7 dlspl?y would not recluire additional screening, and would be allowed on
10/0 of the lot area. The proposed code amendment would also update a reference to the
sign code portions of the Larimer County Land Use Code, Sections 8.7 to Section 10. This
code amencJment was presented to the Community Development Committee, who gave
staff direction to proceed with implementing it into the EVDC.
Town Attorney White stated the current CD-Commercial Downtown zone district does not
allow outdoor sales of merchandise. The proposed amendment would apply to individual
property owners renting part of their lot for retail sales, i.e. Christmas trees, flea markets.
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retail items, etc. He clarified that Bond Park is controlled by the Town of Estes Park using
a permit system, and would not be affected by this code amendment. Director Joseph
explained the difference between the outdoor display of merchandise and outdoor
storage, and suggested adding code language that addressed the difference. He
reviewed the history of when the outdoor display of merchandise originated in the sign
code. Commissioner Poggenpohl recommended clarifying some of the definitions, such
as outdoor “display” versus outdoor “storage”.
Public Comment:
Charlie Dickey/Town Resident was curious as to whether or not any public comment was
received from outlying businesses. He questioned if the required number of parking
spaces would be considered when allowing merchants to set up outdoor displays. He was
also interested in knowing if the Town would be enforcing the code. Planner Chilcott
stated there was no public comment received prior to the meeting, and explained that the
temporary use permit process allows staff to look at overall impacts and location of use,
which would take parking into account.
It was moved and seconded (Klink/Fraundorf) to recommend approval to the Town
Board of Trustees the amendments to the Estes Valley Development Code Section
8.1 and Section 5.3.D.1 concerning the outdoor display of merchandise. The motion
passed unanimously, with one vacancy.
5. IMPERVIOUS LOT COVERAGE PROBLEM STATEMENT
Planner Shirk stated a recent application for a revised development plan exposed a
loophole in the definition of lot coverage. The current definition of lot coverage “shall mean
that portion of a lot that is covered by principal and accessory buildings or structures, and
by surfaces that prevent the passage or absorption of stormwater such as paving and
driveways.” The recent application included permeable pavers that did not prevent the
passage of stormwater. Planner Shirk researched definitions of impervious surface lot
coverage to address the loophole. Staff recommended using the existing definition of lot
coverage and adding an amendment stating that permeable pavement of any type would
not be exempt from the calculation to determine the percentage of lot coverage allowed.
This proposed amendment would also clarify that other types of coverage, such as a
gravel parking lot, would not be exempt. Staff would like direction from the Planning
Commission as to whether or not this problem statement should be presented to the Town
Board prior to approving code language. It was the general consensus of the Commission
that this code amendment was minor and would not require a problem statement
presentation to the Town Board. Commissioner comments included: whether or not to
encourage the use of permeable pavers; to request input from the Public Works
Department concerning stormwater; the life-span of permeable material versus
impervious material; possibly allowing the use of permeable pavers to forego the need for
a detention basin, while not allowing them to be used as a way to develop more land.
Director Joseph stated the proposed amendment offered clarity, and was more restrictive
than the current code. He explained that although they are indirectly related, the
stormwater calculations are independent of lot coverage calculations. Director Joseph
stated there are various types of permeable paving systems that do not support plant life.
He would be more apt to give credit for permeable pavers if they did.
Planner Shirk was directed to present draft code language at the next regularly scheduled
meeting. He will add a statement of clarification that permeable pavement, pavers, gravel,
etc. are not exempt from lot coverage calculations.
6 REPORTS
Planner Shirk stated the Small Wind Turbine code amendments were heard by the Board
of County Commissioners on October 18, 2010, and were unanimously approved. The
Town Board made changes after the Planning Commission’s August recommendation for
approval. Town Board changes included: re-inserting the Conditional Use Permit (CUP); a
list of submittal requirements for the CUP; and, review criteria to ensure compliance with
the noise ordinance and addressing shadow flicker, color, and visual impact. There was
some concern expressed about the filing fee for an appeal to the Board of County
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Commissioners. Planner Shirk reviewed the section addressing visual impact and stated if
a proposed wind turbine location lies within a wildlife habitat protection area, the applicant
would need to submit a wildlife conservation plan.
Planner Shirk reported the County Commissioners heard the Rezoning Request for Aspen
Brook PUD. The County Commissioners heard the request at their September meeting.
The Commission tabled the item and directed Community Development staff to determine
the closest match to the applicant’s former “A” zone district. Staff determined the A-1-
Accommodations zone district was the best fit. It was determined that Lot 29A could only
be used for a single-family dwelling and/or a rental/sales office. Short-term rentals in this
PUD would not subject to occupancy limits, and there were several exemptions from
current A-1 requirements that staff determined the applicant would not be able to meet.
The 30-foot height limit and exterior lighting standards would apply. These changes were
approved by the County Commissioners on October 4, 2010.
Planner Shirk reported the Town Board of Trustees approved the extension of the vesting
period for Marys Lake Lodge Condominiums for a three-year period expiring in 2013.
Director Joseph reported on the budget for 2011. The budget for the Community
Development Department was frozen, with exception of an improved phone system and
improved software for the permitting process. The Commission expressed gratitude to the
IT department for being instrumental in obtaining this software for Community
Development without budget implications.
There being no further business, Chair Norris adjourned the meeting at 3:00 p.m.
Ron Norris, Chair
Karen Thompson,ng Secretary