HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Estes Valley Planning Commission 2010-06-15RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Regular Meeting of the Estes Valley Planning Commission
June 15, 2010, 6:00 p.m.
Board Room, Estes Park Town Hall
Commission:
Attending:
Also Attending:
Absent:
Chair Ron Norris, Vice-Chair Betty Hull, Commissioners John Tucker;
Alan Fraundorf, Doug Klink, Steve Lane, and Rex Poggenpohl
Chair Norris, Vice-Chair Hull; Commissioners Tucker; Fraundorf, Lane,
and Poggenpohl
Director Joseph, Town Attorney White, Planner Shirk, Town Board
Liaison Elrod, and Recording Secretary Thompson
Commissioner Klink
The following minutes reflect the order of the agenda and not necessarily the chronological
sequence.
The meeting of the Planning Commission on June 15, 2010 at 1:30 p.m. was continued to
6:00 p.m. on the same date.
Chair Norris reconvened the meeting at 6:00 p.m. There were 16 people in attendance.
1. PUBLIC COMMENT
a. Fred Mares/Town Resident read a statement from the Association for ResponsilDle
Development (ARD) about the need for a land use plan. He thanked the Commission
for taking a leadership role in reviewing the Estes Valley Comprehensive Plan, and
offered ARD’s assistance if requested.
Mr. Mares also expressed appreciation for the amount of discussion that occurs at
study sessions and meetings.
b. Johanna Darden/Town Resident shared a concern about the speed of traffic on
MacGregor Avenue north of Highway 34. Director Joseph directed her to the Public
Safety Committee and/or the Town Board to express her concerns.
2. CONSENT AGENDA
a. Approval of minutes from May 18, 2010 Planning Commission meeting.
It was moved and seconded (Hull/Poggenpohl) that the consent agenda be approved
as presented, and the motion passed unanimously with one absent.
3. REPORTS
a. Staff-Level Reviews
1. None
b. Pre-application Meetings
1. Director Joseph reported that Eagle’s Crest Resort on Highway 66 is still
progressing.
2. Director Joseph reported the Building Division received a permit application from
Safeway for their fueling facility.
c. Town Board and County Commission decisions on applications reviewed by Planning
Commission
1. Hall Condominiums Preliminary and Final Condominium Maps were approved by
Town Board.
d. Other Reports
1. Planned Unit Development (PUD) Update
Director Joseph reported that PUDs bring flexibility, detail, and creativity where
existing regulations may be a barrier to new development. After several discussions on
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PUDs during study sessions, Director Joseph thought the Commission was at a point
to begin focusing on items that would provide some definition of the physical result that
a PUD process could yield. He stated any PUD code amendments should be tailored
to address local needs. One of those needs is in the Commercial Downtown (CD) and
Commercial Outlying (CO) zoning districts. The CD district currently has a 200% floor
area ratio and no parking requirements, while the CO district has a 25% floor area
ratio and a parking requirement intended to serve customers that are completely
detached from any pedestrian circulation. Currently, on the fringes of the CD zoning
district, there are some areas that are prime redevelopment areas, and also various
types of commercial parcels that have the potential to feed off the downtown area. The
current zoning code does not recognize that potential. The PUD process could be a
way to address properties on those zone-district borders that could eventually plug into
the pedestrian traffic and parking opportunities. The central notion in the
Comprehensive Plan is that high density and highly active commercial activity areas
should be located in the core of the valley. Director Joseph stated the Town is on the
verge of seeing new and substantial infrastructure geared toward public transit, along
with extensive improvement in pedestrian connections along the rivers. These
changes in the physical environment present opportunities for redevelopment.
Commissioners Poggenpohl and Tucker agreed with Director Joseph on the potential
for PUDs. Commissioner Tucker cautioned the Town against asking for components
that may be too expensive for the developer to proceed with the project.
Commissioner Lane stated in some cases, what the Town government wants and
what the community wants are in opposition to each other. It would be important to
Commissioner Lane for any project to be supported by the Town government and the
community. Commissioner Tucker stated his desire to explore the possibilities of what
could be done with Lot 4 of the Stanley Historic District. Chair Norris stated code
language from several other communities is available for public review in the
Community Development Department. He asked the Planning Commission to
contemplate what positive results they would like to achieve through a PUD code
amendment as well as items they would like to avoid. Chair Norris requested
comments from the Commission and the public be heard at the next meeting.
4. DEVELOPMENT PLAN 00-07D - Marys Lake Lodge Amended Development Plan, Lot
3, Marys Lake Replat
Planner Shirk reviewed the staff report. This is a proposed amendment to an approved
development plan. The proposed project is located in the Marys Lake Lodge area. The
existing plan calls for a three-unit structure to be built north of the lodge. The proposed
plan would allow a twelve-unit accommodations structure, with a parking garage and
banquet hall in this same location.
The applicant desires to amend the existing plan from three accommodation units to a
“Reunion Hall” with twelve accommodation units and a meeting facility. The specific
changes include a different footprint and parking layout. There are currently 12 approved
parking spaces in this area. Changes include a larger footprint and reducing the 12
parking spaces to eight, but augmenting parking by adding 17 spaces in a proposed
lower-level parking garage. The finished floor elevation for the proposed plan would be
higher than the current approved plan.
The property is zoned A-Accommodations, and the proposed use is allowed in this
district.
This being the last segment of this development, staff has reviewed the entire site for
compliance. One of the issues discovered during this review was the location of the
loading and service docks. The revised plan shows the loading dock being moved to the
other side of the building from its current location; however, a variance from the Estes
Valley Board of Adjustment would be necessary to construct the loading dock so close to
the property line. A portion of the unused public utility easement would also need to be
vacated.
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Planner Shirk stated the EVDC requires sidewalks to be at least five-feet wide along the
full length of a building fagade that features a customer entrance. The proposed parking
spaces do not allow for the required sidewalk. The applicant proposed to change the
surface of the parking area to differentiate from vehicle areas. It would be visually
separated, and act as a shared parking/sidewalk space as an attempt to have pedestrian
access. Director Joseph believed this was a valid concept. Staff suggested the building
either be redesigned to meet this code requirement, or the drive aisle along the western
fagade be designed to be visually attractive and distinguishable from other driving
surfaces.
Planner Shirk stated the density calculations provided by the engineer were accurate and
indicated enough land area was available for this amended development plan to be in
compliance with the EVDC.
Planner Shirk stated zone district “A” has allows maximum lot coverage of 50%. The
applicant requested to discount the “green roof area from the lot coverage calculations.
Based on the definition of lot coverage in the EVDC, Town Attorney White commented
this waiver would not be allowed. Therefore, the site would need to be redesigned to
reduce the amount of lot coverage. Permeable pavers would be allowed under the code,
and staff suggested the site be redesigned to use this type of lot coverage. Director
Joseph stated previous projects have been approved as green space using this type of
permeable paver.
Community Development staff would review the entire Marys Lake Lodge landscaping
plan. Planner Shirk stated a letter of credit would be required to ensure completion of all
landscaping, and reviewed what a letter of credit entails. The letter of credit must be in
place prior to the issuance of any building permits.
The proposed landscaping plan would need to be revised to accurately depict the parking
layout, remove landscaping from in front of the compact parking spaces, account for
access to the laundry room, and provide for site-triangle issues with the parking garage.
Staff recommended the existing willow grove be augmented with additional plantings.
Planner Shirk stated a cost estimate review for the entire Marys Lake Lodge development
and the proposed landscaping would be required by staff prior to approval of the
development agreement.
Planner Shirk stated the approved Development Plan for Marys Lake Lodge requires a
total of 218 parking spaces distributed throughout the site. The applicant indicated there
would be 191 spaces on the site. The EVDC allows for intermingling with parking spaces
for accessory uses. To account for the shortage of spaces, the applicant submitted two
off-site parking agreements covering a ten-year period. Because the off-site locations are
more than 300 feet from the site, a shuttle service would be required. The EVDC does
not account for parking spaces for compact vehicles, and the applicant has requested a
minor modification to allow these spaces.
Planner Shirk stated the initial development plan had an approved stormwater plan for the
entire subdivision, with the entire site draining into the existing detention ponds. Planner
Shirk stated the applicant had submitted an addendum to the original stormwater plan,
which indicated the additional stormwater flow from the increase in impervious coverage
would be negligible: thus, the existing stormwater detention facility would suffice. The
addendum did not specify how the stormwater would reach the detention ponds.
An existing sewer line would need to be re-routed and tied into a proposed eight-inch
main. The new building would require a new eight-inch main to connect to the existing
main in the Promontory Drive right-of-way. Planner Shirk stated an existing water service
line and four-inch main would need to be re-routed to the laundry room. Staff suggested
the applicant include stormwater and underground utility details on the construction plans
prior to submitting the application for building permits.
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The submitted ISO calculations indicated adequate fire flow was available. No additional
fire hydrants would be required, and there would be adequate access for the fire
department apparatus on the east and west sides of the building. Planner Shirk stated
that due to the height of the structure, the applicant would be required to sprinkle the
building.
Planner Shirk stated the original Marys Lake Lodge development plan included a
comprehensive traffic impact analysis. The most recent traffic analysis was completed in
2009. The proposed application would add 325 vehicle trips to the 2009 analysis, and
staff determined the existing traffic improvements would suffice for this amendment to the
plan.
Planner Shirk stated the applicant currently has several building permits in various stages
of completion. Staff recommended no new building permits be issued until all issues with
the outstanding permits have been resolved. Planning Commission could determine
whether or not these unresolved permits should be (A) finalized; (B) addressed through
an action plan; or (C) addressed by voting for a continuance of the current proposal.
Scott Zurn, Director of Public Works stated he would like to receive additional information
from the applicant concerning the drainage plan for the area. He stated there appeared to
be a fair amount of water coming into this site, both from surface drainage and possibly
some ground water.
Planner Shirk explained that the Planning Commission was the decision-making body for
this development plan amendment.
Public Comment:
1. Frank Theis, owner of CMS Planning and Development, spoke as the representative
for the applicant. He stated drainage plans were created for the original development
plan that included the entire mountainside and were updated at every step of
development. The proposed amendment is the final segment of the development. He
assured the Planning Commission that all loose ends would be resolved. Mr. Theis
explained there are several different types of issues to address in resolving the
outstanding building permits, but none are structural or life-safety issues. Many have
to do with completing the landscaping. An entire inventory of the site will be taken and
completed. Mr. Theis stated he would address all drainage issues with the building
plans. Concerning off-site parking, he stated Marys Lake Lodge has acquired an
extended and covered six-person golf cart to shuttle guests. The off-site parking would
be primarily for employees and special events, and guests would be directed to park in
that area. He stated there was more than adequate parking available for smaller
events, with 50 spaces available for accessory uses. Buses bringing in large groups
would be directed to the off-site parking locations. Mr. Theis stated the parking garage
would function properly. He asked Chair Norris for the right to address any public
concerns from the opponents at the end of the public comment session.
2. Don Debey/Applicant stated the approximate occupancy of the ballroom was 200-225
people, but he does not expect more than about 125 people per event. His priority in
parking is providing space for the rental units and condominium owners. The
employees would use approximately half of the off-site parking spaces. He stressed
the importance of having guests for the events park in designated areas so as not to
create problems for renters and owners. He explained that the road below the Peaks
building becomes a one-way access behind the building to help with fire access, and
he was considering making it a formal fire lane with no stopping or standing allowed.
He suggested installing signage during the high season to designate the road
beginning at Unit 19 A-B be reserved for Peaks, North Wing, and hotel room guests
only, as well as deliveries and passenger drop-off and pick-up. He stated the wedding
coordinator would instruct guests where they would be allowed to park. Any shuttle
buses would be directed to unload at the garage level and guests would be asked to
use the elevator to the ballroom. What appears to be the main entrance is really a
small lobby for the guest suites. Ideally, the people using the ballroom would also be
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staying in the rental units. Mr. Debey stated destination wedding locations tend to
bring in fewer vehicles than the typical wedding, and did not consider parking a big
issue.
3. Lauren Scott/Marys Lake Lodge condominium owner was not opposed to the proposal
as long as it was properly managed. She stated the current parking situation in the
upper area is intolerable, especially during busy weekends. She was concerned that
guests would use the lobby area intended for the guest suites as the main entrance,
rather than entering through the garage. She was concerned about the size of the
building in the proposed location and incomplete or damaged landscaping. Ms. Scott
expressed concern about repair requests not being addressed and other unfinished
construction on the property.
4. Johanna Darden/Town Resident raised concerns about the required variance and the
easement vacation. Planner Shirk explained the reasoning behind those requirements
that were previously discussed. She thought this area was being overdeveloped and
that parking would be a continual problem.
5. Janet Lineger/Lodgehouse owner was opposed to the front entrance to the ballroom,
stating the roadway in front of the entrance was very narrow and inadequate. She
added there was a problem with the current parking situation.
6. Frank Theis/CMS Planning and Development stated the elevation of the west side of
the building is higher than the currently approved building height. The proposed
ridgeline of the new building is less than a full floor above the existing garage.
Public comment closed.
Commission and Staff Discussion:
Commissioner Fraundorf was concerned about the potential for congestion and the
practicality of the issue of the entrance adjacent to the narrow roadway.
Commissioner Lane agreed with Commissioner Fraundorf. He thought the traffic issue
could improve if the building design was reworked. Frank Theis clarified that the
Lodgehouse was required to have two spaces, the Peaks 11 spaces, and the rear parking
of the north wing units seven spaces, for a total of 20 parking spaces. There are currently
30 spaces provided. Don Debey stated the reason for the entrance on the west side was
to accommodate those guests using the outdoor wedding site to the south of the building.
The area between the outdoor wedding site and the building needs to be pedestrian
friendly. Commissioner Lane expressed frustration with the incomplete review materials
and last-minute revisions that hindered his review.
Commissioner Hull did not support this amendment to the development plan. Although the
parking situation was code compliant, she thought the parking situation would continue to
be an issue.
Commissioner Tucker stated people bought units in that development with the original
plan in mind, not the proposed development with a larger footprint and a different use. In
the past, the Planning Commission has been very protective of property owner’s rights,
and he was concerned that the amendment was changing the property from the original
plan in regards to density.
Commissioner Poggenpohl was frustrated about the incomplete packet. He suggested
continuing the proposal to allow the applicant time to submit a complete and accurate
plan.
Chair Norris stated this amendment was a permitted use on the site. He expressed
concerned about the old permits that have not been finalized. He would like clarification
on how the shuttle plan would work, and also accurate drainage and stormwater plans. He
supported a continuance of the project
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It was moved and seconded (Poggenpohl/Tucker) to continue Development Plan 00-
07D, Marys Lake Lodge Amended Development Plan, to the August 17, 2010
meeting of the Estes Valley Planning Commission, and the motion passed
unanimously with one absent.
5. PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ESTES VALLEY DEVELOPMENT CODE - A-1
DENSITY CLARIFICATION
Director Joseph stated this proposed amendment is to remove an unnecessary reference
to Section 5.1.P of the Estes Valley Development Code for low-intensity resort
lodges/cabins in the “A-1” zone district, and to provide clarification to the density
calculation in the “A-1” zone district. Specifically, it addressed the difference between a
bed and breakfast and a cabin-style operation or a small hotel. In an effort to simplify the
language, the proposed amendment states “Bed and Breakfast Inns shall be calculated as
one residential dwelling unit for density purposes provided the lot does not contain
detached units. In all other cases, each individual guest room in a B&B shall be calculated
as one guest room.” Director Joseph stated the Commission agreed on the intent of the
amendment at the previous Planning Commission meeting, only continuing the item so
this new definition could be written.
It was moved and seconded (Lane/Hull) to recommend to the Town Board and Board
of County Commissioners approval of the proposed amendment to Section 4.4
Nonresidential Zoning Districts of the Estes Valley Development Code, as
delineated in Exhibit “A”, and the motion passed unanimously with one absent.
There being no further business. Chair Norris adjourned the meeting at 8:15 p.m.
Ron Norris, Chair
^ren tRora^spri, Recording Secretary
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Regular Meeting of the Estes Valiey Pianning Commission
June 15, 2010,1:30 p.m.
Board Room, Estes Park Town Hail
Commission:
Attending:
Also Attending:
Absent:
Chair Ron Norris, Vice-Chair Betty Hull; Commissioners John
Tucker, Alan Fraundorf, Doug Klink, Steve Lane, and Rex
Poggenpohl
Chair Norris
Director Joseph and Recording Secretary Thompson
Vice-Chair Betty Hull; Commissioners John Tucker, Alan Fraundorf,
Doug Klink, Steve Lane, and Rex Poggenpohl
Chair Norris called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m.
Being no quorum, the meeting was continued to 6:00 p.m. on June 15, 2010.
Ron Norris, Chair
aren Thomp^^, Recording Secretary