HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Estes Valley Planning Commission 2010-12-21RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Regular Meeting of the Estes Valley Planning Commission
December 21, 2010,1:30 p.m.
Board Room, Estes Park Town Hall
Commission:
Attending:
Also Attending:
Absent:
Chair Ron Norris, Commissioners Doug Klink, Alan Fraundorf, John
Tucker, Betty Hull, Rex Poggenpohl, Rick Grabish
Chair Norris, Commissioners Tucker, Fraundorf, Hull, Poggenpohl, and
Grabish
Interim Director Chilcott, Town Attorney White, Planner Shirk, Town
Board Liaison Elrod, and Recording Secretary Thompson
Commissioner Klink
The following minutes reflect the order of the agenda and not necessarily the chronological
sequence.
Chair Norris called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m. There were three people in
attendance.
1. PUBLIC COMMENT
Dave Caddell/County resident stated that newer condominium projects have stalled
due to the unavailability of secondary long-term financing for projects that are not built
out. He stated the issue was the impact on the local economy when projects stop, and
also a hidden impact on home sales. Mr. Caddell stated that people are skeptical to
buy real estate in the area because of these unsold or unfinished condominium
projects. He would like to see townhomes allowed in the same zone districts that
currently allow condominiums, and also allow existing condominium projects to be
replatted as townhome projects. He stated that detached units should be included in
this change. He encouraged the Planning Commission to make this a priority.
Interim Director Chilcott stated the original problem was reviewed by Planning
Commission and would need to be revised to fully address the entire scope of Mr.
Caddell’s concerns. She understood that Mr. Caddell felt a sense of urgency to move
forward as quickly as possible.
Mr. Caddell explained the ownership difference between townhomes and
condominiums. Townhomes are fee simple and condominium owners own the air
space of their unit. Town Attorney White stated the fundamental change would be the
creation of small lots. Each individual unit would be located on its own lot.
Discussion occurred between Mr. Caddell, Staff, and the Commissioners about
potential problems with foreclosures, involvement of home owner associations, zoning,
replatting, and the need to have the elected officials aware of the situation. Mr.
Caddell was concerned about the future impact on the Town if the situation is not
remedied soon.
Interim Director Chilcott stated that Staff would draft a revised problem statement to
address the concern and present it at the January, 2011 Planning Commission
meeting.
2. CONSENT AGENDA
Approval of minutes from November 16, 2010 Planning Commission meeting.
It was moved and seconded (Hull/Fraundorf) to approve the consent agenda as
presented, and the motion passed unanimously, with one absent.
3. ANNOUNCEMENTS
Chair Norris announced that he had been reappointed for a four-year term, expiring
December 31, 2014. He announced that Rick Grabish was appointed to complete
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Steve Lane’s term, which will expire June 30, 2011. Chair Norris thanked staff and
Commissioners for open discussions this past year during his term as Chair.
Commissioner Poggenpohl stated the Town Public Works Department has produced a
map of all the public parks and properties by the Town Parks Department.
As the new Interim Director, Ms. Chilcott encouraged all Planning Commissioners to
meet with her individually if they have concerns or recommendations. The Community
Development Department has been working on the proposed adoption of the 2009
International Building Codes, the 2011 budget, building contractor licensing, and
policies and procedures to help the department become more efficient with fewer staff.
Interim Director Chilcott requested the solar energy agenda item be discussed before
PUDs to accommodate the public in attendance.
4. BYLAWS
Chair Norris stated a change to the Planning Commission bylaws was necessary to
make them consistent with the new Intergovernmental Agreement between the Town
of Estes Park and Larimer County. The agreement calls for two-year terms for the
Chair and Vice-Chair positions, instead of one-year terms.
It was moved and seconded (Poggenpohl/Hull) to approve the amendment to the
bylaws of the Estes Valley Planning Commission, and the motion passed
unanimously with one absent.
5. ELECTION OF OFFICERS
It was moved and seconded (Poggenpohl/Tucker) to nominate Commissioner
Klink as Chair for 2011-2012, and the motion passed unanimously with one
absent.
It was moved and seconded (Hull/Poggenpohl) to nominate Commissioner Tucker
as Vice-Chair for 2011-2012, and the motion passed unanimously with one
absent.
It was moved and seconded (Hull/Poggenpohl) to nominate the Community
Development Department Administrative Assistant as the Recording Secretary,
and the motion passed unanimously with one absent.
6. SOLAR ENERGY
Planner Shirk reviewed the staff report. At the November 16th study session, the
Planning Commission requested staff research solar panels and present information at
the December hearing. Based on this. Staff has research the following: A) Fire
Department concerns; B) Current regulations; C) Other jurisdictions; D) Glare; E) Solar
radiation maps; and F) Colorado solar access laws.
A. Fire Department - Community Development Staff discussed solar panels with Chief
Dorman, who is researching this issue through the State Fire Chiefs Association.
Staff expects this information will be available at the January 18, 2011 meeting.
B. Current Regulations - The Estes Valley Development Code is currently silent to
solar panels. Existing regulations that would apply are structure height and
setback requirements, and accessory use standards. Accessory use regulations
specify that accessory uses/structures: a) Shall be clearly incidental and
customarily found in connection with the principal use; and, b) Shall be
constructed, maintained and conducted to avoid ... glare from artificial illumination
or from reflection of natural light. Reuben Bergsten, with the Light and Power
Department, has verified that “net metering” applies to solar energy. Currently, the
Light and Power Department does not offer any financial incentives for solar
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panels. Mr. Bergsten estimates between 20-25 customers in the service area have
PV solar.
The Division of Building Safety issued five permits for solar panels in 2010. Planner
Shirk stated building departments in Colorado are prohibited from charging building
permit fees for solar energy installation.
C. Other jurisdictions - Larimer County does not specifically regulate solar panels, but
classifies them as structures subject to height and setback requirements. Pending
regulations in Pitkin C ounty place a height limit of 10-12 feet for ground mounted
arrays, and require neighbor notification for roof-mounted systems greater than 400
square feet (with planning commission review if a neighbor objects). Roof-
mounted systems could be raised four (4) feet above the height of the roof but
could not protrude above the ridge of the roof or a ridgeline.
D. Glare - A concern about solar panels relates to possible reflected glare. According
to an October 2009 article in Scientific American, silicon solar cells “have an
albedo, or reflectivity, of 1/6.” This converts to 0.16, or about the same as asphalt
roof shingles. As a matter of comparison, fresh asphalt has an albedo of 0.04,
worn asphalt 0.12, desert sand 0.40, fresh concrete 0.55, and fresh snow 0.8
(source: Wikipedia).
Staff discussed this issue with Thomas Beck, local architect and member of the
American Institute of Architects Committee of Environmental Design. Mr. Beck
indicated that solar panels typically have a sheet of glass as an outer protection.
Based on this, the glare potential for a solar panel is the same as a glass window.
Mr. Beck also indicated that he has worked with Fort Collins, Loveland, Longmont,
Boulder, and Boulder County, and none required any specific review of potential
glare.
E. Solar radiation maps - These maps look at the effectiveness of solar radiation
across the United States. Based on map standards, this part of the county has the
second highest average solar radiation in the county, with an annual average of 5-6
kWh/m2/day.
F. Colorado solar access laws - The following applies to HOAs; Staff has included this
information for reference purposes.
Section 38-30-168 of the CRS states any covenant, restriction, or condition
contained in any deed, contract, security instrument, or other instrument affecting
the transfer or sale of, or any interest in, real property solely on the basis of
aesthetic considerations which effectively prohibits or restricts the installation or
use of a solar energy device is void and unenforceable.
This does not apply to aesthetic provisions which impose reasonable restrictions
on solar energy devices and which do not significantly increase the cost of the
device or significantly decrease its performance or efficiency.
Section 38-32.5-101, specifies that solar easements “shall not be acquired by
prescription.” This differs from the State of California, which allows ex-post-facto
solar easements (example: north neighbor installs solar panels and discovers
south neighbors existing trees block solar access. North neighbor was able to
force removal of the trees to provide solar access).
Planner Shirk showed photos of several different types of solar products.
Planner Shirk asked for feedback from Commissioners, taking into account the
existing height limit, setback requirements for accessory structures, and maximum
cumulative square footage for possible ground mounted structures. Staff
recommended discussion on the following: 1) Definition to clarify for personal use only
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and for personal consumption only - no commercial operations allowed; 2) Specific
locational criteria; 3) Possible landscaping standards; 4) Painting of support structures
to match the surroundings; 5) Larger structures to be screened from public right-of-
way. At a minimum, staff recommended adding solar panels to the use classification
chart for accessory uses, any additional requirements, and a definition.
Staff and Commission Discussion:
Discussion occurred between staff and the Commission, including building permit
requirements, requirement to be in working order, wind design standards, glare
enforcement, accessory space allowances, allowed sizes of accessory structures,
significant adverse impacts on neighboring property owners, accommodations of roof-
mounted thermal storage units directly beneath panels. Also, the total square footage
of the entire envelope of the structure should be considered, height below roof line,
standard setbacks, possible screening to mitigate glare, special regulations for free
standing units, and keeping regulations as minimal as possible to encourage use.
Public Comment:
Thomas Beck/County resident and leading solar expertise in the area, owns a home
with integrated roof tiles and an accessory structure with roof-mounted solar collectors.
He discouraged more regulations and procedures that would make solar energy more
expensive. Having done consultation work for several companies, all have dealt with
standard building permit procedures for setbacks, snow load, dead load, wind speed,
and accessory square-footage requirements. He urged caution when regulating glare.
He stated the majority of installed products have a glass cover that would be reflective.
Commissioner Hull expressed her concern about glare. Mr. Beck stated 90-95% of
what is being installed today has a protective glass cover, which creates glare. There
are products on the market that create less glare, but they are significantly more
expensive. Commissioner Hull stated other nearby municipalities have interests in
mitigating glare from solar panels, and would support similar regulations in the Estes
Valley.
Commissioner Poggenpohl was supportive of no regulations of solar energy products
that are attached to a structure within a small building envelope. His concern was
detached and/or moveable panels and their size. Commissioner Fraundorf
encouraged code language to be in line with building, energy, and fire codes.
Commissioner Hull was concerned about free-standing solar energy products.
Chair Norris directed staff to move forward with a problem statement, including the
main issues of glare, ground-mounted units, and compliance with other agencies.
Standard height and setbacks would apply. Staff will provide a problem statement at
the next regularly scheduled meeting.
7. PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS (PUDs)
Interim Director Chilcott reviewed the staff report. In a recap of the discussion at the
November Planning Commission meeting. Currently, there are limited incentives for
developers, and very few PUD applications have been submitted. Staff recommended
making targeted changes to the current regulations to provide more incentives for
developers and to give the decision-making body a clearer ability to require additional
public benefits.
Staff drafted the following recommendations, which were open for discussion:
A. Allow PUDs in all non-residential zone districts and possibly the Multi-Family
Residential zone district (currently allowed only in CO). The majority of the
Commissioners supported this recommendation, with Commissioner Hull
undecided. It was suggested by Commissioner Grabish to consider using buffer
zones and consider how PUDs could work alongside ideas for historic
preservation.
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B. No minimum lot size. Currently PUDs are allowed on parcels three acres or larger,
which can be a barrier for developers. Realistically, many lots in the non-residential
zone districts are less than three acres. The Planning Commissioners agreed with
the recommendation, with Commissioner Fraundorf suggesting that there be some
designated minimum lot size besides zero. Staff mentioned that the lot size could
vary by zone district.
C. Allow multi-family units to be built at 12 units per acre. Currently, PUD regulations
allow accommodations uses, residential uses, and mixed uses. Interim Director
Chilcott explained the current density bonus regulation and various scenarios. Staff
recommended the decision-making body having the option to somewhat vary the
density, but believed it was important to have some sort of standard. The
Commission asked staff for more specifics concerning the current accommodations
standard size limit of 800 square feet. Commissioner Fraundorf suggested being
silent to the 800 square foot standard.
D. Add the ability to vary the yard, bulk, and dimensional requirements for all PUD
lots. Current PUD regulations allow the decision-making body to vary these
standards for interior lots in a PUD, but not those that border the outside of the
PUD. Staff suggested that by allowing the ability to vary these standards on all lots
in the PUD, it would allow some buffering and consideration of adjacent property
owners.
E. Allow parking variations upon review and approval of a parking study. Interim
Director Chilcott stated that parking is not specifically addressed in current PUD
regulations. Staff suggested that at times a parking study could reveal a workable
plan that could allow exemption or modification of the standard.
F. Give the decision-making body clear ability to require construction of critical public
infrastructure, superior architectural and site design, and Built Green buildings
and/or site design. Interim Director Chilcott stated the current PUD regulations do
not give the decision-making body this ability, nor do they address other community
benefits or public needs, such as attainable housing. Staff recommends allowing
the decision-making body to require that these needs and benefits be met as
deemed necessary with each individual PUD. Commissioners Fraundorf and
Norris agreed with this recommendation, as long as the code was open-ended to
work out the details in the negotiation process with the developer.
Staff requested feedback on whether or not to require mixed uses in the revised PUD
regulations. This mix would include commercial and residential uses. Commissioner
comments were that the economics of the project should drive the uses, and that most
successful developments contain a variety of mixed uses. The majority of the
Commission were not supportive of a mixed-use requirement.
Staff requested feedback on whether or not to give the decision-making body the
ability to vary other standards, such as landscaping, driveway design, roads, etc.
Commissioner comments included drafting a conceptual review option for the
developer to bring these items to the forefront prior to final review.
Public comment
None.
8. REPORTS
Interim Director Chilcott reported that the Bobcat Ridge Supplemental Condominium
Map #2, The Lodges at Black Canyon Inn Supplemental Condominium Map #2, and
the rezoning of 440 Valley Road were approved by the Town Board of Trustees on
December 14, 2010. The code amendments for the outdoor display of merchandise
were also approved and will be presented to the County Commissioners in January,
2011.
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Planner Shirk reported a pre-application meeting to consider condominiumizing the
Courtyard Shops was on the staff schedule.
Planner Shirk reported that Jim Sloan of the Black Canyon Inn would like to amend the
current condominium map to place three units by the creek on the south side of the
property.
Planner Shirk reported that staff met with the architect charged with designing the Park
Theatre Mall. The proposed plan may require variances through the Estes Valley
Board of Adjustment prior to Planning Commission review. Town Attorney White
reminded the Commission of the quasi-judicial nature of the review. Any private
conversations should be declined.
There being no further business, Chair Norris adjourned the meeting at 3:25 p.m.
Ron Norris, Chair
Karen Thompson, Recording Secretary