HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Estes Valley Planning Commission 2011-03-15RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Regular Meeting of the Estes Valley Planning Commission
March 15, 2011,1:30 p.m.
Board Room, Estes Park Town Hall
Commission:
Attending:
Also Attending:
Absent:
Chair Doug Klink, Commissioners Ron Norris, Alan Fraundorf, John
Tucker, Betty Hull, Rex Poggenpohl, Rick Grabish
Chair Klink, Commissioners Norris, Fraundorf, Hull, and Grabish
Interim Director Chilcott, Planner Shirk, Town Attorney White, Town
Board Liaison Mark Elrod, and Recording Secretary Thompson
Commissioners Tucker and Poggenpohl
The following minutes reflect the order of the agenda and not necessarily the chronological
sequence.
Chair Klink called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m. There were seven people in
attendance.
1. PUBLIC COMMENT
Johanna Darden/Town resident thanked Town Attorney White for answering last month’s
question about open space and the Comprehensive Plan. She hoped that the open
spaces initiative document would be used for guidance when revising the Comprehensive
Plan.
2. CONSENT AGENDA
Approval of minutes from February 15, 2011 Planning Commission meeting.
Commissioner Norris requested the minutes be removed from the Consent Agenda.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY 15, 2011 PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING.
Commissioner Norris addressed the statement in the minutes concerning RLUIPA.
Town Attorney White requested the statement read that the Estes Valley Development
Code needs to be reviewed to assure compliance with the federal law.
It'was moved and seconded (Norris/Hull) to approve the minutes as corrected
and the motion passed unanimously with two absent.
4. AMENDMENTS TO THE ESTES VALLEY DEVELOPMENT CODE
Land Subdivision of Multi-Family and Accommodation Development
Planner Shirk stated the main purpose of this proposed code amendment was to
remove townhomes as a type of land use designation and define it as a type of
ownership. This could be accomplished by removing townhomes from the specific use
charts in the zoning district language.
Planner Shirk stated there was a minor change from last month’s review. Language
was added to specify that all townhome projects would be required to submit a
development plan application with review by the Planning Commission. This would
allow staff and the Commission to review the overall development standards.
Clarification was made regarding Home Owner Associations (HOA) as they relate to a
townhome project’s stormwater facilities, private streets, and open areas (not an
inclusive list). The Public Works Department requested that the HOA be responsible
for maintenance of stormwater facilities and private streets. Planner Shirk stated the
minimum lot size language was modified to remove the one-acre minimum lot size
regulation and rely on the minimum lot size for the underlying zone district. The
language for setbacks was modified to allow for reduced setbacks for interior lots.
Planner Shirk stated a reference for the Floor Area Ratio and Lot Coverage was
included in the proposed amendment. After last month’s discussion, a statement was
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added to limit lot coverage to no more than 80% of the individual lot. This would allow
20% of each lot to be privately owned. The only design standards in this proposed
amendment state that there shall be no more than eight (8) attached townhome units
per single structure or building.
Staff proposed a requirement for an Outlot; Common townhome property shall be
placed in platted outlets and shall be owned and maintained by the homeowner’s
association. This includes but is not limited to stormwater facilities, parking lots, private
streets or roads, open space, and areas protected by Limits of Disturbance standards.
Planner Shirk stated this was specifically for townhome properties, because state laws
govern common property in condominium developments. Interim Director Chilcott
stated this was not intended to prohibit an application that would propose public
ownership of any of those facilities.
Clarification was made by staff about the difference between condominium projects
and townhome projects, and where some areas of the proposed amendments would
need to relate specifically to townhomes, due to the type of ownership.
Planner Shirk stated the definition of Townhome will be struck from the definitions. The
revised definition of Outlot would be added to Section 13 of the EVDC.
PUBLIC COMMENT
None.
STAFF AND COMMISSION DISCUSSION
None.
Planner Shirk stated if approved, the Town Board would hear the proposed
amendment in April and May, with the County Commissioners hearing it in June.
It was moved and seconded (Norris/Grabish ) to recommend approval of the
proposed amendment to the Estes Valley Development Code regarding Land
Subdivision of Multi-family and Accommodations Development, as delineated in
the Staff report, to the Town Board of Trustees and Larimer County Board of
County Commissioners with the findings recommended by staff, and the motion
passed unanimously with two absent.
5. AMENDMENTS TO THE ESTES VALLEY DEVELOPMENT CODE
Planned Unit Development
Interim Director Chilcott reviewed the history of problem statement. Feedback from the
Town Board was summarized in the Town Board minutes. The County Commissioners
did not express any concern about moving forward with the concept, and liked the
process Estes Park uses by working out local issues with local boards and
commissions. Public Information Officer Rusch prepared a press release encouraging
public input into the process, and staff recently spoke at the Association for
Responsible Development (ARD) meeting. Dialogue with the public has been
encouraged.
The Staff would like to discuss the general concepts for definition and purpose of
PUDs, current regulations in the valley, and potential public benefits available through
PUDs. Staff would appreciate general feedback from the Commission and the public
on each of those items prior to drafting code language.
Interim Director Chilcott stated staff thinks the definition could be revised to emphasize
creativity, flexibility and public benefits, some of which is lacking in the current
definition. It could include a process that would require a comprehensive review of the
project design to allow for flexibility and creativity in site and buiding design, so that
benefits accrue to the public. The Commission did not have comments against the
definition, although Commissioner Norris thought a concrete definition may be a bit
premature at this point.
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Interim Director Chilcott stated an Advisory Service Report from the American
Planning Association was used as guidance for the purpose statement, and some of
the other language was taken directly from the state statute. The key element was
that the current PUD regulations were to encourage PUDs that would result in
innovations in commercial and residential development, encourage more efficient use
of land and public services, encourage integrated planning, provide for well-located
commercial sites and well-designed residential developments, and conserve the value
of land.
Staff recommends revising the purpose statement to more clearly describe the desired
purpose of PUDs in the Estes Valley. Staff recommended identifying the maximum
allowable modifications to code standards, and suggested that any requested
incentives and public benefits be clarified early in the review process, possibly through
a concept plan review.
Interim Director Chilcott pointed out that EVDC Section 3.4.D.1.e discusses
improvement in quality over what could have been accomplished through strict
application of the otherwise applicable district or development standards. This would
include, but not be limited to, open space, environmental protection, tree/vegetation
preservation, and efficient provision of streets, roads and other utilities and services.
Interim Director Chilcott stated staff recommended including language in a public
benefits section stating “in no case shall waivers or modifications be granted unless
the application demonstrated a substantial public benefit.” The public benefits would
be superior features that benefit the surrounding neighborhood or the public in
general. Staff recommended the Commission’s role in deciding a PUD application
would be to judge, balance, and reconcile the relative value of the project amenities
and public benefits offered, and any potential adverse effects according to the specific
circumstances of the case. Interim Director Chilcott stated there are various
possibilities to qualify public benefits. The underlying principal would be to have a
good balance of the relative value to the incentives requested.
Interim Director Chilcott reviewed the various public amenities and needs that had
been discussed in previous Commission meetings, and gave examples of public
benefits identified by other communities. In researching PUD regulations from other
communities, staff found they vary greatly, and what may be a benefit to one may not
be to another.
COMMISSION AND STAFF DISCUSSION
Commissioner Fraundorf thought there should be more emphasis on public benefits in
the purpose statement. Commissioner Norris stated if using the word “creative” in the
code language, it should have a clear definition. There was a brief discussion among
the staff and commission as to where to insert the statement on public benefits in the
code language in order to have the greatest effect.
Chair Klink stated PUD regulations on public benefits would need to be written in a
way that people can understand and agree with them as being a fair. He gave an
example of listing wetlands or steep areas as a public benefit, when in reality, nothing
could be built there anyway. He would not support increased density or other bonuses
if these or similar areas would be acceptable public benefits. Commissioner Grabish
added that any particular restriction with respect to a lot that would have restricted its
use, that benefit ought to inure to the public benefit and not be counted as a benefit
toward the PUD amenities.
Interim Director Chilcott stated discussion could continue at a future meeting to begin
to determine what incentives developers would have and how many standards could
be waived. Commissioner Norris would like to include “higher quality design” into the
code language where applicable. Discussion occurred about what public benefit
means to one group of the public may not be considered a benefit to all of the public.
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Further discussion occurred about the specifics of the term “public benefit.” Interim
Director Chilcott stated staff would continue looking at PUD codes from other
communities to arrive at an acceptable definition of public benefit. Commissioners Hull
and Norris suggested compiling the public benefits into one list or format it in
descending order.
Chair Klink suggested that discussion of specific public benefits be tabled until all
Commission members were present.
Brief discussion occurred concerning how PUD regulations may be very similar to
what is already written into the Comprehensive Plan. Chair Klink clarified that the
Comprehensive Plan acts as a guide, while the development codes are the
regulations.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Johanna Darden/Town resident did not agree with the proposed minimum lot size for
PUDs. She supported creativity and design that would not increase density. She does
not see a need to create more commercial space or housing. She strongly
discouraged employee housing above businesses, stating that there are many vacant
homes in town that could be used for employee housing. Ms. Darden disagreed with
the PUD purpose statement. She submitted her written comments for the public
record, to be posted on the Town website.
Fred Mares/Town resident stated PUDs are very complex. Benefits to public and
incentives for developers are complex, and possibly the benefits could be site specific,
depending on the type of PUD proposed or the zoning district of a proposed PUD. He
thought it would be difficult to write one code for PUDs that could relate to all the
different situations. Mr. Mares would appreciate more public forums on PUDs.
Charley Dickey/Town resident was a developer of a PUD in Texas. The regulations
there required a neighborhood buy-in. Variances, landscaping, road improvements,
and site development were all addressed. He stated there needed to be motivation on
both sides; one from the developer to go through the PUD process, and one from the
public. He supported downtown redevelopment that might include employee housing
on the second level. He agreed with Mr. Mares in that the code should be broader to
encompass all zoning areas, with disapproval being an option for the decision-making
body. He stated public benefits may actually be better described as community
benefits. Planner Shirk stated Larimer County requires neighbor meetings in certain
situations where the development is not a use by right.
Public comment closed.
It was moved and seconded (Grabish/Fraundorf) to continue the discussion of
Planned Unit Developments to the next regularly scheduled meeting and the
motion passed unanimously with two absent.
REPORTS
Planner Shirk reported Impervious Lot Coverage and Removal of EPURA from the
EVDC were approved by the County Commissioners on February 22, 2011. A
presentation on PUDs was presented to the County Commissioners at their work
session on February 28, 2011.
Planner Shirk reported that on February 22, 2011, the Town Board voted to approve
the following: rezoning of the Convention and Visitor’s Bureau; the amended plat of a
lot in University Heights; an amended condominium map for The Lodges at Black
Canyon Inn Condominiums; and the development plan and vesting period extension
for Stone Bridge Estates. Stone Bridge has been proactive this year in getting some
revegetation completed. They also replaced some silt fencing with logs. The developer
was given a three-year extension.
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Planner Shirk reported one pre-application meeting for a boundary line adjustment on
Shady Lane.
Planner Shirk reported the hiring of Kevin Ash in the Public Works Department. Kevin
will be working on project reviews. He replaced Greg Sievers, who retired at the end of
2010.
Interim Director Chilcott reported there has been no further activity on Park Theatre
Mall.
Interim Director Chilcott reported on the code revision priority list. Although RLUIPA
will take more time than some other code revisions, staff recommended it be given
high priority. A problem statement was submitted to Town Board several months ago.
Staff would like to put this item on the agenda for the April meeting. It was suggested
for staff to bring information to educate the Commission on RLUIPA and where
changes need to be made in the EVDC.
Planner Shirk reported there will be two amended plats on the April agenda.
p.m.
business, Chair KImk adjourned the meeting at
Karen Thompson, Recording Secretary