HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Estes Valley Planning Commission 2012-04-17RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Regular Meeting of the Estes Valley Planning Commission
April 17, 2012-1:30 p.m.
Board Room, Estes Park Town Hall
Commission:
Attending:
Also Attending:
Absent:
Chair Doug Klink, Commissioners Ron Norris, John Tucker, Betty Hull,
Rex Poggenpohl, Joe Wise, one vacant position.
Chair Klink, Commissioners Norris, Hull, Poggenpohl, and Wise
Director Chilcott, Planner Shirk, Town Board Liaison Elrod, Town Attorney
White, and Recording Secretary Thompson
Commissioner T ucker
The following minutes reflect the order of the agenda and not necessarily the chronological
sequence.
Chair Klink called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m. Chair Klink stated this was
Commissioner Norris’s last meeting and expressed his appreciation for his service. There
were seven people in attendance.
1. PUBLIC COMMENT
None.
2. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Approval of minutes, March 20, 2012 Planning Commission Meeting.
It was moved and seconded (Norris/Poggenpohl) to approve the consent agenda as
presented, and the motion passed unanimously with one absent and one vacancy.
3. A. SPECIAL REVIEW 2012-02, COLORADO CARRIAGE & WAGON
B. SPECIAL REVIEW 2012-03, HEARTS & TAILS CARRIAGE COMPANY
Planner Shirk reviewed the staff reports. Due to the similarity of the reviews, the staff
reports will be discussed together and voted on separately. Planner Shirk stated carriage
rides are a common request in Estes Park. To date, none have displayed operational
problems. The requests were submitted to the Police Department and the Public Works
Department, who did not express any operational concerns.
Colorado Carriage & Wagon, owned by Jim Rice of Ft. Collins, proposed public pick-up
and drop-off points at the Transit Center and Tregent Park. He does not have a specific
route, but will be in the downtown area. Planner Shirk stated written permission by any
private property owners would be required for stops other than those listed above.
Hearts and Tails Carriage Company is owned by Jerry and Carol Higgason of Evans. The
applicants proposed to base their operation out of the Elkhorn Lodge stables. Their public
pick-up and drop-off points would also be the limited to the Transit Center and Tregent
Park. They are working to obtain permission for specified stops on private property,
including the Stanley Hotel, St. Bartholomew Church, and Our Lady of the Mountains
Catholic Church. Planner Shirk stated written permission of any private property owners
would be required.
Planner Shirk stated the conditions of approval have been modified slightly from past
year’s applications. Specifically, if traffic conflicts or other use conflicts occur on the
streets or at the public stop locations. Town staff is authorized to restrict operations until
the problem is corrected. This is intended to account for accidents, parade routes, periods
of heavy traffic, or other instances of traffic hazards or congestion. To date. Planner Shirk
does not recall any problems with this condition, nor does he remember ever having to put
it in place.
Staff recommended approval of the requests. Planner Shirk stated the Transit Center and
Tregent Park are public properties; therefore, the Planning Commission is the
recommending body, and the final decision would be from the Town Board. If the Planning
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Commission recommends approval, the Town Board would hear the review on May 8,
2012.
STAFF AND COMMISSION DISCUSSION
Commissioner Poggenpohl suggested a simplified review process for future requests.
Planner Shirk stated the applicants would appreciate a more simple process.
PUBLIC COMMENT - COLORADO CARRIAGE & WAGON
Jim Rice, owner of Colorado Carriage & Wagon stated he has been in business for 11
years. While based in Ft. Collins, he also operates in Loveland, Cheyenne, and various
shopping centers along the Front Range. He stated having a standard route would not be
feasible because some customers prefer to be dropped off at locations other than the
public pick-up and drop-off points. He stated his horse and carriage had never been a
traffic problem, and is very conscientious when it comes to pedestrian safety. One
standard pick up location makes it easier to water the horses and keep the horse manure
in a closed receptacle. Commissioner Poggenpohl was not supportive of the carriage
rides venturing into residential neighborhoods.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
1. Prior to operation, applicant shall obtain a business permit from the Town Clerk. Such
application shall include a copy of a Certificate of Insurance for $1,000,000 to the
Town, with the Town to be named as an additional insured.
2. Obtain written permission from property owners for specified stops on private property.
3. The route map shall include the following notes (may be on the back side of the map):
• Signature block:
APPROVAL:
Approved by the Town of Estes Park Board of Trustees this_______day of
___________, 2012.
2.
3.
Bill Pinkham, Mayor
Conditions:
1. Revisions to the route and/or stops depicted on this map shall be subject to
review and approval of Town staff.
No signage shall be allowed on public property.
If traffic conflicts or other use conflicts occur on the streets or at the public
stop locations. Town staff is authorized to restrict operations until the
problem is corrected. This is intended to account for accidents, parade
routes, periods of heavy traffic, or other instances of traffic hazards or
congestion.
All horses shall be diapered during times of service.
A copy of the business license and Special Review permit shall be kept with
the carriage.
4.
5.
It was moved and seconded (Hull/Wise) to recommend approval to the Estes Park
Town Board for the proposed carriage rides provided by Colorado Carriage and
Wagon (Special Review 2012-02) with the findings and conditions recommended by
staff and the motion passed unanimously with one absent and one vacant position.
PUBLIC COMMENT - HEARTS & TAILS CARRIAGE COMPANY
Carol Higgason, owner of Hearts & Tails Carriage Company, stated their operation is
based in Evans. They also operate at the Greeley Independence Stampede, the Festival
of Trees in Greeley, and other locations. They have provided carriage services for the
past six years for weddings in Estes Park, and are familiar with the area. She stated their
horses will be diapered and they already carry insurance.
Commissioner Poggenpohl commented that the applicants are welcome to attend the
Town Board meeting on May 8th, and hoped they have a successful season.
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CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
1. Prior to operation, applicant shall obtain a business permit from the Town Clerk. Such
application shall include a copy of a Certificate of Insurance for $1,000,000 to the
Town, with the Town to be named as an additional insured.
Obtain written permission from property owners for specified stops on private property.
The route map shall include the following notes (may be on the back side of the map):
• Signature block:
APPROVAL:
Approved by the Town of Estes Park Board of Trustees this_______day of
_____________, 2012.
2.
3.
2.
3.
Bill Pinkham, Mayor
• Conditions:
1. Revisions to the route and/or stops depicted on this map shall be subject to
review and approval of Town staff.
No signage shall be allowed on public property.
If traffic conflicts or other use conflicts occur on the streets or at the public
stop locations. Town staff is authorized to restrict operations until the
problem is corrected. This is intended to account for accidents, parade
routes, periods of heavy traffic, or other instances of traffic hazards or
congestion.
All horses shall be diapered during times of service.
A copy of the business license and Special Review permit shall be kept with
the carriage.
4.
5.
4.
It was moved and seconded (Norris/Hull) to recommend approval to the Estes Park
Town Board for the proposed carriage rides provided by Hearts and Tails Carriage
Company (Special Review 2012-03) with the findings and conditions recommended
by staff and the motion passed unanimously with one absent and one vacant
position.
SPECIAL REVIEW 2012-01, ESTES PARK MEDICAL CENTER
Planner Shirk explained that hospitals are listed as a use requiring Special Review in the
RM-Residential Multi-Family zone district. Because the Estes Park Medical Center is a
public hospital and a separate government entity, a Location and Extent Review is also
required. If this application is denied by the Town Board, the hospital governing board has
the authority to overturn that decision.
Planner Shirk reviewed the staff report, stating the medical center was proposing to build
a parking lot to handle staff parking. If approved, medical center staff would be directed to
park on the west side of the property and in the new lot. The previous ambulance parking
area has been relocated to the north side of the property.
Planner Shirk stated the proposed lot would contain 23 parking spaces. No additional
landscaping would be required. The proposal would include a pedestrian route for
employee safety. A stormwater report has been approved by the Public Works
department. Exterior lighting would need to comply with the Estes Valley Development
Code. Pole lights in the proposed lots would be limited to 15-feet above grade. Planner
Shirk encouraged the medical center to be aware of the height limit prior to ordering the
light poles, making sure to allow for the height of the concrete base.
Planner Shirk stated there is an existing duplex very close to the proposed lot. Because
the duplex is owned by the medical center and is on the same property, setback
regulations do not apply.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Brandon Pietsch/EPMC representative stated the interior of the existing parking lot on the
northeast side of the property will become strictly patient/visitor parking. The existing
duplex is currently the office for home-health care and hospice care, with a business use
classification.
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Brenda Rains/adjacent property owner requested clarification about who would be parking
in the proposed lot, and the purpose of increasing the number of parking spaces. Director
Chilcott explained employees would be encouraged to park farther away from the
buildings to allow easier access for patients and visitors. Ms. Rains was also concerned
about drainage. Director Chilcott stated a new drainage pond will have a concrete pan,
causing the stormwater to flow directly into the drainage swale
Commissioner Hull commented that the stormwater report has already been reviewed and
approved by the Public Works Department.
Staff recommended approval of the Special Review with conditions.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
1. Prior to issuance of a demolition permit for the existing dwelling, applicant shall contact
the Estes Park Water Department and Estes Park Sanitation District to finalize
disconnection points and schedule fixture counts. Demolition permit shall not be
issued without approval from the Water Department and Sanitation District.
2. Prior to issuance of grading permit, the stormwater report shall be subject to review
and approval of the Public Works Department.
3. Exterior lighting shall comply with standards set forth in Section 7.9 of the
development code. This limits the parking lot lighting to 15-feet high.
It was moved and seconded (Wise/Norris) to recommend approval to the Estes Park
Town Board for the proposed Estes Park Medical Center parking lot expansion
(Special Review 2012-01) with the findings and conditions recommended by staff
and the motion passed unanimously with one absent and one vacant position.
5. REPORTS
Planner Shirk reported several pre-application meetings were held in the last month. A
small drive-through coffee shop was proposed on Moraine Avenue adjacent to Cheesy
Lee’s Pizza. Due to the minimal size of the structure, the Planning Commission would not
be reviewing the plans. Staff assures compliance with the EVDC.
Planner Shirk reported an application for an amended plat in the High Drive Heights
Subdivision would probably be submitted within the next month or so.
Planner Shirk reported building permits have been issued for The Timbers Townhomes.
Commissioner Norris suggested providing this information to the Town Board so they are
aware of the positive impact made by the amendment to the EVDC regarding townhomes.
Planner Shirk met with another developer interested in creating a townhome project.
Planner Shirk reported on the Accessory Dwelling Units (ADU) work session with the
County Commissioners. They were concerned about the lack of a public review process
and would not support the amendment. There was extensive public comment at the two
previous Town Board meetings. On April 10, 2012, the Town Board voted 5-0 to
disapprove the code amendment regarding ADUs. The amendment was not remanded to
the Planning Commission. Planner Shirk stated there are some code conflicts that still
need to be resolved. Accessory kitchens are allowed anywhere with a land use affidavit,
and the existing code does not require the land use affidavit on lots sized 1.33 times the
minimum lot size for the zone district.
Director Chilcott reported on the A-Accommodations zone district density/bulk issue. The
current regulations for A-Accommodations zoning could hinder redevelopment of older
properties. Currently, if a property zoned A-Accommodations has limited kitchen facilities,
the density is affected. Some communities have moved away from kitchens as they relate
to density, as kitchens are not necessarily a meaningful way to determine the impact on
the property or neighbors. Director Chilcott suggested studying the issue in small,
manageable pieces. She will be working with Public Information Officer Kate Rusch to
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determine exactly what needs to be addressed. This topic has been discussed in study
sessions with the Town Board and County Commission, but no actions have been taken.
Director Chilcott also suggested taking input from the Estes Area Lodging Association
(EALA) and other interested parties prior to drafting code language. Chair Klink stated the
Planning Commission needs to be more informed about the issue prior to making
recommendations. Director Chilcott stated this issue was on a priority list of potential code
amendments several years ago. There were comments made by several Commissioners,
including but not limited to: the importance of getting comments from EALA and the
Wedding Association; and the desire to know where the Town Board stands on the issue
prior to moving forward.
Director Chilcott stated she would like to receive input from the recently installed Town
Board to determine which items should be at the forefront of the Planning Commission’s
workload. Commissioner Hull suggested having the Town Board revisit the priority list and
reprioritize if necessary.
Director Chilcott reported Community Services Director Betty Kilsdonk and Deputy Town
Administrator Lowell Richardson have been working on a Volunteer Manual for
approximately one year. The proposed manual was reviewed by the Town Board, who
encouraged feedback from groups that utilize volunteers and who would be affected by
the proposed manual. Director Chilcott commented that this manual was discussed at the
Planning Commission study session, and several Commissioners voiced their opposition
to the indemnification form. The Volunteer Manual, will be discussed at the next Town
Board meeting.
There being no further business, Chair urned the meeting at 2:30 p.m.
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