HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Estes Valley Planning Commission 2016-04-19RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Estes Valley Planning Commission
April 19, 2016
Board Room, Estes Park Town Hall
Commission:
Attending:
Also Attending:
Chair Betty Hull, Commissioners Doug Klink, Nancy Hills, Steve Murphree, Sharry
White, Russ Schneider, Michael Moon
Chair Hull, Commissioners Murphree, Moon, Klink, White, Schneider, and Hills
Interim Director Karen Cumbo, Planner Audem Gonzales, Town Attorney Greg
White, Town Board Liaison John Phipps, Environmental Planner Tina Kurtz,
Senior Planner Alison Chilcott, and Recording Secretary Karen Thompson
Absent:None
Chair Hull called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m. There were approximately 60 people in
attendance. Each Commissioner was introduced. Chair Hull explained the process for accepting public
comment at today's meeting. The following minutes reflect the order of the agenda and not
necessarily the chronological sequence.
1. PUBLIC COMMENT
Charley Dickey commented on today's study session. He asked the Commission to consider having
the same discussion in the regular meeting. The discussion was relevant, and the public in
attendance at the regular meeting today deserve to hear the same discussion. He also asked the
Commission to be more involved in planning. There are items coming up in the community that
could be assisted by the Commission's involvement.
2. CONSENT AGENDA
Approval of minutes, March 16, 2016 Planning Commission meeting.
It was moved and seconded (Hills/Murphree) to approve the consent agenda as presented and
the motion passed unanimously.
3. REZONING & BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTMENT AND RE-ZONING, TBD Little Prospect Road
Planner Gonzales reviewed the staff report. The applicant, Stephanie Rauk, desires to adjust the
common property line between two parcels as well as rezone both properties to E-Estate. The
owner of both parcels is the George H Voeks Trust, and Ms. Rauk is the Trustee. In 2010, a
separate legal lot determination was requested of Community Development staff, and it was
determined the north parcel was not considered a legal not for the purposes of development. In
August, 2015, another legal lot determination was requested, and again the lot was determined
not legal for purposes of development. The applicant has since filed an appeal of the staff
decision to the Larimer County Board of County Commissioners, which was initially heard at the
December 21, 2015 County Commission meeting. The result of that hearing was a request by the
County Commissioners to the applicant to come forward with the appropriate applications to
accomplish the goal of creating two equally-sized lots. It was implied if the applicant completed
these steps, then the County Commissioners would be inclined to overturn staff's decision, which
would make the north parcel a legal lot and eligible for a boundary line adjustment (BLA).
Therefore, the applicant has applied for a BLA and Rezoning, of which the Planning Commission is
the recommending body to the County Commissioners. A hearing on the appeal, BLA, and
rezoning is scheduled for May 16, 2016.
Planner Gonzales stated the proposed BLA would reconfigure the lots, although neither would be
conforming to minimum lot size for the proposed rezoning to E-Estate (0.5 acre minimum). Both
lots would be 0.437 acres in size. Adjusting the boundary line would result in the smaller parcel
coming closer into conformance with the zone district standards. A minor modification would be
required to reduce the minimum lot size to the proposed 0.437 acres. The proposal also includes
granting direct access to the two new lots via Little Prospect Drive, accessed from Peak View
Drive. The applicant requested a waiver from establishing limits of disturbance and vegetation
protection standards, and staff approved the request. He stated the application was routed to all
affected agencies and adjacent property owners. Water supply to the proposed two parcels could
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be by connecting to the Town system or drilling a well. New utility easements will be dedicated
with the Final Plat.
Planner Gonzales stated the rezoning request is essentially a corrective rezoning. The south parcel
was zoned E-l-Estate when the Estes Valley Development Code was adopted in 2000, and the
north lot was zone E-Estate. The E-1 zoning is not consistent with the remainder of the
subdivision. In order to avoid split zoning if the BLA is approved, staff supports the rezoning
request. The site is located within the Beaver Point planning area of the Estes Valley
Comprehensive Plan. Staff evaluated the proposed development for compliance with the
Comprehensive Plan and found no issues or conflicts with this proposal.
Staff Findings
1. The Boundary Line Adjustment application and Rezoning request do not fall within the
parameters of staff-level review, and will be reviewed by the Estes Valley Planning
Commission. The Planning Commission is the Recommending Body, and the Larimer
County Board of County Commissioners is the Decision-Making Body.
2. The Minor Modification request does not fall within the parameters of staff-level review,
and will be reviewed by the Planning Commission. The Planning Commission is the
Decision-Making Body.
3. This request has been submitted to all applicable reviewing agency staff for consideration
and comment. All letters and memos submitted by reviewing staff, referred to in the staff
report, are incorporated as staff findings.
4. Adjusting the boundary line and changing the configuration of the parcels would not
compromise the intent of the original subdivision. It would bring the two parcels into
further conformance in regards to lot area dimensions.
5. The rezoning would reflect the new lot configuration.
6. Utility easements on the newly created lots will be recorded with the final plat.
7. Existing easements will remain to be dedicated on the final plat.
Staff listed several motion samples for the Commissioners to consider, which can be viewed in the
staff report. Each has various conditions of approval. The conditions of approval chosen by the
Planning Commission are listed below.
Public comment
Joe Coop/applicant representative stated the property owners are in agreement with all staff
findings and conditions of approval. When asked about the option for drilling a well on the
property, Mr. Coop stated he understands lots created prior to 1972 are eligible to apply for a
water well with the State of Colorado Water Division. There is documentation the lot was created
before 1972.
Conditions of Approval
1. Board of County Commissioners granting the Separate Lot Determination Appeal,
therefore designating the north parcel a legal lot making it eligible for a Boundary Line
Adjustment.
2. Approval of the Rezoning request from E-l-Estate to E-Estate.
3. Label setbacks on Preliminary Plat.
4. Add note to plat map that owner of Lot 1 or Lot 2 shall abide by any local road association
or homeowners association maintenance regulations for Little Prospect Drive.
It was moved and seconded (Schneider/Klink) to recommend approval of the application to the
Larimer County Board of County Commissioners with the findings and conditions recommended
by staff and the motion passed unanimously.
REZONING OF 475 FALL RIVER LANE FROM CO-COMMERCIAL OUTYUNG TO R-2-TWO-FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL
Planner McCool reviewed the staff report. The applicants, Dennis and Katie Lovell, desire to
rezone the subject property in order to allow an existing two-family dwelling to be used as such.
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A rezoning request was submitted in 2004 by the previous property owners, but the request was
withdrawn before the public hearing. The application was routed to all affected agencies and
adjacent property owners, and a legal notice was published in the local newspaper. No neighbor
comments were received. The Planning Commission is the recommending body for this
application, with the Town Board being the decision-making body. Planner McCool reviewed the
following:
Staff Findings
1. Staff found the previous rezoning request from 2004 was generated due to updates to the
Estes Valley Development Code (EVDC) completed in 2000 which removed language
permitting single-family and duplex uses within the "CO" zone district as uses by right.
Therefore, the 2000 EVDC updates created a nonconforming use of this property. This
proposed amendment is necessary to address changes in conditions in the areas affected
since the quilting business previously located within the structure was relocated many
years ago, hence, the long-standing uses on the parcel have been primarily residential. The
Division of Building Safety reviewed a building permit to bring the property into
compliance with current building codes since the conversion of the commercial space to
residential use was never reviewed by the building officials at the time. A condition
required by the Division of Building Safety is that a rezoning is approved prior to issuance
of a Letter of Completion. Approval of the rezoning will bring the property into compliance
with the existing uses on the property and improve the safety of the building through
required upgrades to the structure.
2. Staff found that given the nature of the current land use and existing developed parcel.
Staff has waived the requirement for a development plan, since no new development is
proposed in conjunction with this rezoning request. The configuration of the existing
development has been evaluated by Staff and will conform to the proposed zoning
designation of R-2-Two-Family Residential.
3. Staff found the property is fully developed and already served by the public utilities and the
fire district. The Estes Valley Fire Protection District reviewed the submitted materials and
had no comments or concerns regarding those plans. The EVFPD provided their standard
condition of approval that all construction and processes shall be in accordance with the
provisions of the International Fire Code (2009), the International Building Code (2009)
and the Town of Estes Park Codes and Standards.
Public Comment
Katie Lovell/applicant stated she and her husband were working with the Division of Building
Safety to bring the structure into compliance as a residential duplex.
Public comment closed.
Staff and Commission Discussion
None.
Conditions of Approval
1.
2.
All construction and processes shall be in accordance with the provisions of the
International Fire Code (2009), the International Building Code (2009), and the Town of
Estes Park Codes and Standards.
Property owner will comply with all requirements of the Division of Building Safety to
ensure the converted commercial space is safe for habitation as a second dwelling unit.
It was moved and seconded (White/Murphree) to recommend approval of the rezoning request
to the Town Board of Trustees with the findings and conditions recommended by staff and the
motion passed unanimously.
AMENDED PLAT AND REZONING REQUEST FOR LOT 5, SUNNY ACRES ADDITION
Planner Gonzales reviewed the staff report. He stated the applicant, Paul Pewterbaugh, was
requesting to remove the common property line between two illegally subdivided lots, and
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rezone the proposed Lot 5A to RM-Multi-Family Residential. He stated a previous property owner
illegally subdivided Lot 5, Sunny Acres Subdivision in the 1980s, and they were subsequently
zoned R-2-Two-Famlly Residential and E-l-Estate with the established of the new zone districts
in 2000 when the EVDC was adopted. The zoning of the two lots was determined by the uses of
the properties at the time. In 2006, and Amended Plat and Rezoning applications were approved
for the subject property. However, the applicant failed to record the final plat, therefore nullifying
the approved Amended Plat and Rezoning. The current application is essentially a duplicate of the
2006 requests. Planner Gonzales stated the existing lots are sized 0.11 acres (zoned R-2) and 1.06
acres (zoned E-1), making the proposed Lot 5A 1.17 acres, meeting the requirements for
minimum lot size in the RM-Multi-Family Residential zone district. The smaller parcel currently
contains a duplex which does not meet setback or dimensional requirements, and the larger lot
also contains a duplex that does not meet setback requirements on the west side. Planner
Gonzales stated the plat was reviewed for grading and site disturbance standards. There are
existing gravel drives, and these standards are not applicable at this time. The requirements for
adequate public facilities were not triggered with this application. There is a proposed 10-foot
utility easement along all property lines, and a new private 10-foot utility and access easement
through the center of the property is proposed to be dedicated to allow for utilities and access to
properties to the east.
Planner Gonzales stated this application is for a corrective rezone. This property would have
remained zoned for multi-family residential development with the adoption of the EVDC if the
Larimer County Tax Assessor's map had shown this property as one lot containing four units.
However, the Larimer county map reflected the 1982 illegal subdivision with one duplex on each
of the two parcels. Staff was not aware of the illegal subdivision at the time of the rezoning when
the EVDC was adopted in 2000. Planner Gonzales stated the site is located within the Fall River
planning area of the Estes Valley Comprehensive Plan, which includes a mix of single-family and
multi-family development. Although the rezoning request does not align with the Comprehensive
Plan, it reflects what is currently built.
Staff Findings
1. This Amended Plat application and Rezoning request do not fall within the parameters of
staff-level review, and will be reviewed by the Estes Valley Planning Commission. The
Planning Commission is the recommending body, with the Town Board of Trustees being
the decision-making body.
2. This request has been submitted to all applicable reviewing agency staff for consideration
and comment. All letters and memos submitted by reviewing staff, referred to in the staff
report, are incorporated as staff findings.
3. Adjusting the common property line and creating one legal lot does not affect the original
intent of the subdivision. It would bring the existing property into conformance in regards
to lot area dimensions and permitted uses.
4. The rezoning would reflect how the subject area is developed.
5. New utility easements and private access easements on the newly created lot will be
recorded with the final plat.
Staff recommended approval of the Amended Plat and Rezoning request with conditions of
approval listed below.
Staff and Commission Discussion
Planner Gonzales clarified the setback on the west side of the larger lot does not currently meet
all setback requirements. However, the amended plat would bring both lots into compliance with
setback requirements in the RM-Multi-Family Residential zone district.
Public Comment
Joe Coop/applicant representative stated a proposed covered entry would extend into the
current setback. However, this will be corrected with the amended plat. The applicant was in
agreement with the findings and conditions reflected in the staff report.
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Public comment closed.
Condition of Approval
1. Approved Amended Plat shall be submitted for recording within 60 days of Town Board
approval of the application.
It was moved and seconded (Hiils/Klink) to recommend approval of the Amended Plat and
Rezoning to the Town Board of Trustees with the findings and conditions recommended by staff
and the motion passed unanimously.
SPECIAL REVIEW 2016-01, LAZY B RANCH & WRANGLERS, 1665 HIGHWAY 66
Planner Gonzales reviewed the staff report. The request is to develop a 750-person capacity
Chuckwagon Dinner and Live Entertainment facility on a five-acre site located at 1665 Spur 66,
within the Estes Park town limits. The site is adjacent to the existing Elk Meadow RV Resort. The
proposal includes a 17,910 square foot building, 192 space parking lot, widening of Mills Drive on
the south of the site, and installation of a right turn lane on Spur 66. The development would
occur in three phases over three years, unless funding allows the phasing to be completed
sooner. The parcel is zoned k-Accommodations, allowing for higher intensity/higher density
projects. The proposed site currently serves as a storage area for the RV Park. Surrounding the
site are various land uses including Rocky Mountain National Park (RMNP) facilities and offices,
single-family dwellings, a restaurant/tavern, and an RV park. Mills Drive is currently a 20-foot
wide asphalt private drive.
Planner Gonzales stated the application was determined to be reviewed as an indoor
Entertainment Event, Major. Major entertainment event uses are characterized by activities and
structures that attract people to specific (often large-scale) events or shows. Activities are
generally of spectator nature. Accessory uses may include restaurants, bars, concessions, parking
and maintenance facilities. A Special Review is required for this type of development in the A-
Accommodations, CO-Commercial Outlying, and CD-Commercial Downtown zone districts, and
requires the applicant to mitigate, to the maximum extent feasible, potential adverse impacts on
nearby land uses, public facilities and services, and the environment. Planner Gonzales stated the
Planning Commission is the recommending body for this application, with the Town Board being
the decision-making body. The application was routed to all affected agencies and adjacent
property owners. A legal notice was published in the local newspaper. Staff received many public
comments regarding this application. These comments can be viewed at
www.estes.org/currentapplications.
Planner Gonzales stated the application complies with the density standards, minimum lot size
requirement, building height and setback requirements. Impervious lot coverage allowed is 50%,
and this project proposes 15% coverage. The proposed plan complies with the general grading
and site disturbance standards. There is currently very little landscaping on the site, and
additional landscaping has been proposed to meet or exceed the requirements of the code for a
development of this size. Concerning wetlands and stream corridor protection, there are no
delineated rivers or streams on or near the subject area. Two potential wetland habitat areas
have been identified and conservatively mapped for this application. A formal delineation study
will be conducted once the site thaws. The proposal includes an encroachment by 2.6 feet into
one of the potential wetland setbacks (50-foot required setback), for which a minor modification
would be required, with staff having authority to grant or deny the modification (10% or less).
Staff will recommend a condition of approval be the submittal of the Jurisdictional Wetland
Delineation results to the Community Development Department for review. A wildlife habitat
evaluation and impact analysis was provided and found no critical habitat or
threatened/endangered species habitat on the site. The proposed development does not propose
any obstructions to critical wildlife movement corridors. Exterior lighting as proposed will comply
with the EVDC. The proposal calls for reducing exterior lighting after 10 p.m. Approval of exterior
building lighting will be address during the building permit process. Planner Gonzales stated a
photometric study will be required during the design of the paved parking lot. Regarding
Operational Performance Standards, Planner Gonzales stated the maximum noise level shall not
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exceed 55 decibels during the hours of 7 a.m. to 8 p.m., with the level being reduced to 50
decibels between the hours of 8 p.m. to 7 a.m. Staff will recommend a condition of approval
requiring the applicant to perform a noise level study at the property line prior to the first show in
the temporary tent to ensure compliance with the noise ordinance. Off-Street parking and loading
requirements were reviewed. A Traffic Impact Study was conducted, and it was determined 200
vehicles would be maximum number of passenger vehicles with an attendance of 750 guests. The
applicant has requested additional parking studies during phases one and two to determine a
final parking space number. In the meantime, staff reviewed the project considering the full build
out of 192 parking spaces. The proposed parking area includes handicap-accessible spaces,
parking for large buses, and a bicycle rack. Planner Gonzales stated the EVDC has requirements
for distances from property lines in regards to loading areas. The applicant will be applying for a
variance from this requirement to allow encroachment into the setback for the street-side loading
area.
Planner Gonzales stated adequate services and facilities are available to serve the proposed
development, as follows:
• Connection to the existing Upper Thompson Sanitation District sewer system;
• Extension of a 12-inch water main and a 20-foot utility easement on the north side of Mills
Drive;
• Existing overhead electric lines will be buried within the 20-foot utility easement;
• On-site stormwater will be handled through streets/curb and gutter, overland flow, catch
basins, and in storm sewer pipes;
• Estes Valley Fire Protection District provided comments that are referred to in the
conditions of approval;
• A southbound right-turn lane will be required at the intersection of Spur 66 and Mills Drive
as determined by the traffic study, of which there is sufficient Larimer County right-of-way
to accommodate such turn lane;
• Recommendation of a limited all-way stop sign at the intersection of Larimer County Road
69B and Spur 66 (also known as Hwy 36 and Spur 66 intersection), which would require
approval from the Colorado Department of Transportation
• Requirement by Public Works for Mills Drive (private drive) be widened to meet local
street standards with 45 feet of dedicated right-of-way, 24 feet of asphalt and curb and
gutter on both sides up to the entrance of the proposed development. The proposal would
dedicate an additional 15 feet on the north side of Mills Drive to be added to the existing
30 feet of right-of-way on the south side of Mills Drive.
• The proposal triggers construction of a sidewalk along Mills Drive. The applicant and staff
do not feel construction of a sidewalk at this time is reasonable as it would only extend to
the property line to the east of this proposed development. Public Works has requested a
cost estimate to allow the applicant to provide cash in lieu of the sidewalk construction.
• The proposed expansion of Mills drive occurs within the property boundaries of the parcel
in question.
Planner Gonzales stated the project was reviewed against the guidelines in the Estes Valley
Comprehensive Plan. Prior to the establishment of the Estes Valley Development Code and
valley-wide rezoning in 2000, this property was zoned for multi-family use. In 2000, the property
was rezoned to A-Accommodations, which allows chuckwagon dinner use with Special Review.
Staff found this proposal is in alignment with the Comprehensive Plan, as follows:
• The proposed commercial project is in an area that currently allows commercial uses;
• The proposed location of the building is setback 240 feet from the east property line along
Spur 66;
• The proposal greatly reduces the land availability for campground utilization and
expansion, and the applicant is interested in possibly subdividing the parcel from the
existing campground.
Planner Gonzales stated the proposal does not support the Comprehensive Plan guideline that
the commercial campground should evolve into housing, as follows:
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• The campground property is roughly 31 acres, and this project would use less than five
acres of that total. There is adequate land to re-develop the entire site with various land
uses.
Planner Gonzales stated staff found the proposed development advances several adopted
Community-Wide Policies, including:
• Community Design
o Construction plans would include light-colored roofing materials
o Natural colors for building exteriors
o Windows, doors, or other architectural features to provide visual relief
o Lighting that is shielded and directed downward
• Growth Management
o Encourages infill of older core areas to reduce infrastructure costs. The undeveloped
portion of this property is considered an infill site.
• Mobility & Circulation
o Implements access control improvements as development occurs. This proposal would
widen Mills Drive and add a right-turn lane.
o Encourages movement toward alternative modes of transportation. This proposal
would utilize tour buses and the free shuttle system.
• Economics
o Maintain a unique blend of businesses, resident and visitor, without negatively
affecting the natural beauty of the Estes Valley. The proposal is a business that has
history in the Estes Valley. The area would benefit by having power lines placed
underground, adding additional landscaping along Mills Drive to buffer between the
commercial and residential uses to the south,
o Sustain and support the existing tourism industry and marketing programs. Staff found
this project fills a niche in Estes Park for a very popular tourist attraction all across the
western United States.
o Establish the basis for a sound tourism market and sustainable economic climate.
• Intergovernmental Coordination
o The Town and County will encourage redevelopment and infill as a primary tool to
create a compact community and to prevent sprawl. The proposal is within the Town
limits, and aligns with the community-wide policy.
Planner Gonzales reviewed the criteria for Special Review, stating a traffic study was provided,
resulting in the determination that Mills Drive should be widened, with the entrance coming off
of Mills Drive. This entrance would be required should the property be subdivided. The property
owner also requested the separate entrance from the RV Park. The applicant has proposed the
hiring of a traffic control officer during peak periods, and contracting with bus tour companies as
an alternative mode of transportation. The Town shuttle service has a proposed stop at the site
for guest and employee use. Limited employee housing may be provided on site. Environmental
impacts, noise impacts, and hours of operation were discussed earlier in the meeting. Other
potential impacts include light pollution from headlights, which should be mitigated by the
extensive landscape buffer along Mill Drive. The view shed to the north from residents south of
Mills Drive will be improved because the area will be cleaned up, power lines will be buried, and
Mills Drive will have improved landscaping. Dust from the dirt parking lot will be mitigated prior
to events or during high wind events. Planner Gonzales stated officials at RMNP expressed
concern about potential air quality issues presented by grilling beef and chicken, and that
pollutants from food preparation would enter the Park when the wind blows from east to west.
This concern was routed to the Larimer County Health Department, whose opinion was there
would be no negative impact requiring an air emissions permit unless the char-broiler or wood-
fired cooker exceeded the threshold amount of 17 tons of wood per year.
Planner Gonzales stated the minor modification, discussed earlier in the meeting, to allow an
encroachment of 2.6 feet into the 50-foot wetland and stream corridor protection buffer/setback
is within the authority of staff to grant, and staff approved this minor modification. Another
variance for the off-street loading requirement mentioned earlier in the meeting would be heard
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by the Estes Valley Board of Adjustment following the final decision by the Town Board, as
required by the EVDC.
Planner Gonzales explained the phasing process. For the 2016 season, a temporary use permit has
been approved by staff, allowing operation of the dinner and entertainment event in an 8700
square foot tent with 63 tables, a 200 square foot indoor stage, dirt parking lot, installed
landscape buffer on Mills Drive, where the entrance would be located. This is the third temporary
use permit to be issued in as many years at this location. The biggest change for this year is the
entrance coming off of Mills Drive instead of using the Elk Meadow RV Park entrance on Spur 66.
Phase 1, planned for 2017 and in addition to the current facilities, would include permanent
kitchen and restroom facilities, ADA compliant sidewalks, paved ADA compliant parking spaces,
the water main extension and sanitary sewer service line, and a soft-surface trail from the
temporary tent to the shuttle stop location on Spur 66. Phase 2, planned for 2018, would include
construction of the dining/performance hall (12,200 square feet) being added to the permanent
kitchen and restrooms, additional landscape buffer along Mills Drive, and installation of the right-
turn lane. Phase 3, planned for 2019, would finish the development with construction of the
parking lot (including curb and gutter), storm sewer installation, and parking lot landscaping.
Planner Gonzales stated the Planning Commission should consider the entire development in
their recommendation to the Town Board.
Planner Gonzales stated there has been an extensive amount of public interest in this project,
mainly from adjacent property owners. There are concerns about how this project will affect
parking at the nearby Rock Inn. He stated the County Engineering Department has determined
the parking area in front of the Rock Inn is actually in the County right-of-way, and has not been
approved for use as a parking area. Additionally, it was determined that residents living on Mills
Drive and parking across the street from their homes are actually parking on the Elk Meadow RV
Park's property. Mills Drive is a private road located on the Elk Meadow RV Park property.
Staff Findings
1. If revised to comply with recommended conditions of approval, the application will
comply with applicable sections of the Estes Valley Development Code, as described in the
staff report.
2. The application is consistent with the policies, goals and objectives of the Comprehensive
Plan.
3. Adequate services and facilities are available to serve the development.
4. The Planning Commission is the Recommending Body, and the Town Board of Trustees is
the Decision-Making Body for the Special Review application.
Staff recommended approval of the Special Review application with the conditions of approval
listed below.
Staff and Commission Discussion
Comments included but were not limited to:
• The new noise ordinance increases the daytime decibel level from 55 to 80, with quiet
time from 10 p.m. to 7 a.m. These changes will impact this proposal.
• The water main extension was requested by a private citizen. RMNP will also have the
option to tie into this extension. This proposal only requires a small segment to be
connected to the Town water system.
• A limited stop sign means not permanent, and either way it would have to be approved by
CDOT. It would be in effect for certain hours.
• Is there a possibility that Mills Drive could become a town street? (Public Works would
need to discuss this with the property owner).
• There was brief discussion regarding a second ingress/egress to the proposed parking lot.
The temporary use permit allows for the entrance to be on Mills Drive. Previous
temporary use permits had the entrance from the Elk Meadow RV Park.
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• There was brief discussion regarding the stormwater discharge. The applicant's
representative will discuss this in more detail.
• The approved temporary use permit allows 200 people and a maximum of 60 cars in a
temporary tent from May 15 through September 30, 2016.
• Lessons can be learned from temporary uses regarding traffic, dust, noise, etc.
• When the turn lane is installed, only parallel parking in front of the Rock Inn would be
allowed. The Rock Inn's parking issue would need to be addressed by the owners of the
Rock Inn to the County Engineers. It is not part of the application presented today.
Chair Hull called a five-minute recess at 2:56. The meeting reconvened at 3:01.
Public Comment
Troy Krening/attorney representing applicant addressed the concerns regarding two entrances,
stating while only one was required, the applicant would be willing to look into establishing two
areas for ingress and egress. The temporary use permit allows for one access point from Mills
Drive. He explained there would be two separate business on the property, each having its own
specific entrance, and it was never intended to use the Elk Meadow RV Park entrance for the Lazy
B's entrance. The peak traffic time for the Elk Meadow RV Park is 5-7 p.m., and if the Spur 66
entrance was used for Lazy B traffic, the two would be competing, which is not considered a
workabie solution. At some point, the property owner intends to subdivide the Lazy B portion of
the parcel (five acres) from the larger parcel. For the 2016 season, the Lazy B applicant and the
property owners have signed a lease agreement to allow the use and operation of this 5-acre
proposed deveiopment area. Traffic officers wili be hired by the applicant, with their location to
be determined by the police department. Lazy B wili encumber the expense necessary to ensure
safe passage to and from Spur 66. According to Mr. Krening, Milis Drive is a private road
belonging to the property owners of the parcel proposed to be developed. It has been maintained
by RMNP, which has had this unwritten agreement for many years. Mills Drive is vital to RMNP,
as the headquarters and operational buildings are located off of Mills Drive (and can also be
accessed from Hwy 36.)
There was discussion between the Commissioners and Mr. Krening regarding exterior lighting in
the parking area and whether or not it would be turned off when not in use. There was
discussion between the Commissioners and staff regarding hours of operation, and whether or
not a condition of approval could be placed limiting the hours and extent of the operation.
Michelle Oliver/applicant stated she is a full-time resident of Estes Park, whose desire is to carry
on the western heritage tradition of a chuckwagon dinner theater in the Estes Valley. The
proposed development was modeled after the chuckwagon dinner theater by the same name
that operated in Estes Park for more than 40 years. The operation will be a family-oriented early
evening event, held seven nights a week from May through October, once the permanent building
is in place. Addressing earlier comments, she stated the lights could be turned off when the
building is not in use. If financing allows, she would hope to complete the phasing earlier than
planned. She is seeking support from the Town of Estes Park to allow economic growth in the
community. Ms. Oliver stated she held two public meetings to address concerns with those that
attended. She initially offered an area for the Rock Inn customers to park, and has a few other
unexplored parking ideas, but nothing has been completely resolved. Ms. Oliver stated she
initially met with the met with two of the owners or managers of the Rock Inn in September,
2015, and also has a trail of several email exchanges between them. She met with Tim Roemer,
one of the business partners of the Rock Inn, but has been unsuccessful in attempts to meet with
Kerry Egan, the other business partner. Ms. Oliver and Mr. Roemer met with one of the land
owners, Randy Jackson, to discuss parking alternatives suggested by Van Horn Engineering that
could have provided additional parking for the Rock Inn. Ms. Egan was invited to this meeting, but
did not attend, so no decisions were made. Ms. Oliver stated it was made known at that meeting
that Ms. Egan would not be willing to look at any of the parking proposals. Regarding the concern
regarding air pollution from cooking, Ms. Oliver stated they are hoping to smoke their meat, but
grilling was also an option they would consider. She will comply with whatever the health
department requires.
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Celine LeBeau/project leader from Van Horn Engineering explained the parking situation for the
Rock Inn, stating their customers are parking on the Rock Inn property, but are backing out of the
spaces into the right-of-way where the turn lane is proposed. There was brief discussion about
whether or not the parked cars at the Rock Inn would extend into the turn lane, and whether the
proposed situation would be any different than other nonconforming parking lots in Estes Park.
Ms. LeBeau stated the proposed plan does not include curb and gutter, which would allow
parallel parking in front of the Rock Inn. She stated curb and gutter is typically required. The
intersection of Mills Drive and Spur 66 would be slightly altered, with the road being moved to
the south to meet the grading standards. She stated an effort was made to mitigate adverse
impacts for the neighbor's parking area on Mills Drive by adjusting the location of the improved
drive. She reminded the Commission that Mills Drive is actually on Elk Meadow RV Park's
property.
Lonnie Sheldon/Van Horn Engineering clarified drainage questions by stating the existing pond is
on private property. The depth has been measured and has the capacity for water quality
purposes and stormwater detention and runoff.
Matt Delich/traffic engineer was available to answer questions. He developed traffic forecasts for
the area, stating the heaviest traffic would be between 5-6 p.m., due to traffic coming into town
from RMNP at that time of day. He anticipated traffic delays at Highway 36 and Spur 66 coming
from town heading to destinations on Spur 66. He explained the grading scale or level of service,
with "A" being best and "F" being worst. Grades are determined by the amount of vehicle delay.
An acceptable level of service is a "C" or better. "D" grades are tolerated in cities larger than Estes
Park. Mr. Delich stated a level of service "E" would be present at that intersection from 5-6 p.m.
during the high tourist season. One way to mitigate this "event condition" would be manual
traffic control, or a temporary stop sign on Hwy 36. The functionality would be similar to a four
way stop. Adding a temporary stop sign or using a manual traffic control system would improve
the level of service to "C".
Chair Hull provided some parameters for public comment, which will be limited to three minutes.
She reminded those in attendance that audience reactions are not appropriate.
Tony Goss/County resident stated the traffic at the intersection of Highway 36 and Spur 66 is bad.
Ron Thomas/Town resident stated the plans posted on the Town website were not readable. He
questioned the location of the property corners and the validity of the schematic maps. He
disagreed with the survey completed by Van Horn, based on the legal description. He wanted to
know the exact legal boundaries of the rights-of-way. He questioned whether the right-of-way
was purchased by the County, and thought there should be documentation stating such. He
suggested the applicant have their plans redone and resubmitted correctly.
Jay Vetter/County resident stated his front porch will be approximately 100 feet from the front of
the building. He is opposed to the development. He stated the public comments were mostly
opposed to the project, relating concerns about parking and noise. He was concerned that he
received incorrect information from staff regarding the Spur 66 Management Plan. He did not
think the proposed project complied with the Spur 66 Management Plan or the Estes Valley
Comprehensive Plan. He asked the Commission to consider an alternate entrance other than Mills
Drive. He questioned the validity of the temporary use permit and the Spur 66 Management Plan,
and wondered if staff had reviewed everything requiring review. He thought there should be
conditions of approval for exterior lighting, dust mitigation, etc. Mr. Vetter was not confident a
shuttle stop at the proposed location was realistic.
Mike Egan/County resident stated he was a part-owner of the Rock Inn and an adjacent
residential rental property. He was concerned about the proposed turn lane, stating it would
eliminate 16 parking spaces at the Rock Inn. He felt his concerns have been ignored, as have those
concerns of others. He disagreed with the classification of this project as an "accessory use" for
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the RV Park. He suggested the Commission evaluate the impact the project will have on adjacent
properties, as required by both the EVDC and the State Highway Access Code. Mr. Egan stated if
this project is approved, it would be surrounded by people that are opposed to it.
Mark Donahue/County resident stated the Town Board, as the decision-making body for this
project, would be making a decision affecting adjacent property owners that live outside the
Town limits. Those opposed are locals that would have to deal with this business on a daily basis.
As a long-time local resident, he was opposed to additional development in Estes Park that would
bring in more tourists. This proposal would not be a fair and equitable outcome for everyone. He
thought the Rock Inn should be gifted some parking areas to make up for parking spaces being
lost.
Tim Roemer/business partner at the Rock Inn disputed whether alternative parking solutions
were suggested by Van Horn Engineering. He stated there was a brief discussion with Randy
Jackson about the small area between the Rock Inn and the proposed location of the Lazy B.
Colt Weber/County resident was concerned about the risks imposed to the public with the
proposed turn lane and additional traffic. He is visually impaired, and the improvements proposed
on Mills Drive and Spur 66 would make it more dangerous for him to get around without
assistance, as he does now. He stated that due to the removal of the parking spaces in front of
the Rock Inn, people will be parking along Mills Drive, which will make the area more dangerous
for pedestrians, thereby bringing the traffic on Mills Drive to an unreasonable level.
John Vernon/County resident was on the board that created the Spur 66 Management Plan, and
to his knowledge it was not obsolete. Planner Gonzales stated the plan was recognized by the
Planning Commission and County Commissioners, but was not a formally adopted plan. Mr.
Vernon stated there were several reasons commercial businesses were discouraged near the
intersection of Highway 36 and Spur 66; the close proximity to RMNP, the congestion at Beaver
Point (Moraine Avenue & Marys Lake Road), etc. This proposed development would create a
bottleneck that could not be mitigated with traffic control. He was opposed to the project.
Ann Vernon/County resident stated she has worked with the YMCA of the Rockies and Federal
land developers to keep open space in their area, since it is close to RMNP. She was supportive of
the success of the Rock Inn and was concerned about a larger project going in nearby. She
recommended the Planning Commissioners not allow the entrance on Mills Drive, but instead use
the Elk Meadow RV Resort entrance. She was opposed to the project being so close to RMNP. She
stated the Mills Drive entrance is the reasoning behind a lot of the anger with this project. She
thought there would be too much noise for the campground, residents of the High Drive area, etc.
She was opposed to the project.
Sherrie Durris/County resident commented on the wildlife study, stating Mills Drive has a lot of
wildlife, including bear, deer, bobcat, weasel, and elk. She was concerned about the noise, light
pollution, traffic, impact on wildlife, etc. She wondered if the Commissioners would be in favor of
this if it were in their backyard.
Jill Schladweiler/County resident stated she lives on Mills Drive and is part of Estes Park's working
class. She stated if Mills drive was going to be widened, a sidewalk should be required, and thinks
the food at the Lazy B will attract bears. She was concerned about what would happen to the
property if the business did not succeed. She is not opposed to growth and understands Estes
Park is a tourist town, but she needs to believe in where she lives in order to stay. She was
opposed to the project.
Jenna Melissa/County resident stated tourists that do not understand the environmental impacts
to wildlife will have a negative impact on the area. She caters to visitors to Estes Park that come
to enjoy the open space. She was concerned about the traffic delays at the intersection of
Highway 36 and Spur 66, and how it could impact her business as a fly fishing and hiking guide.
She stated the light pollution could attract bugs that would not normally be in the area, impacting
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the aquatic wildlife. She was concerned about whether the business would be successful, when
there are several other events in Estes Park that are offered at no charge.
Deborah VanTaessel/ County resident understands the impact that tourists have on traffic in the
area of the proposed project. She was concerned about the possibility of the population living on
Spur 66 needing to be evacuated due to an emergency. She stated she did not know about the
project until just a few days ago, and thought there should be more publicity about it. She was
opposed to the project.
Susan Wolfe/County resident was concerned about the air pollution from tour busses, meat
smokers, etc. She was concerned about attracting bears to the area. If the pond is a natural pond,
she would be concerned about it being used for stormwater runoff.
Public comment closed.
Commissioner and Staff Discussion
Addressing Mr. Thomas' concern about inaccurate survey information. Commission Klink
requested Lonnie Sheldon to explain. Mr. Sheldon stated the surveys meet state statutes, and the
right-of-way information was found in the title search. Mr. Sheldon would like to meet with Mr.
Thomas to resolve any disputes.
Regarding the temporary use permit. Planner Gonzales stated staff has the authority to approve
temporary use permits, and can limit the use to what is appropriate. The temporary use permit
for the Lazy B allows operation from May 15, 2016 to September 30, 2016. The temporary use is
not part of Phase 1, and is not part of the application presented today.
There was discussion regarding Estes Park traffic in general, and who was accountable for making
it work properly. Comments included but were not limited to: why is there not already a light at
that intersection?; CDOT should not have allowed the creation of that intersection the way it is; a
condition of approval could be to have the temporary stop sign at that intersection; whether or
not a temporary stop sign would be required is determined by CDOT; traffic is a concern from the
majority of the people that commented today; there is no easy answer.
Kevin Ash/Town engineer stated the Town recently received authorization from the Town Board
to apply for a grant to make improvements around the intersection of Moraine and Marys Lake
Road. He stated there are steps being put into place to be proactive with making improvements
to the Moraine Avenue corridor, which would directly impact the area being discussed.
Commissioner Schneider expressed his concern about parking availability for the Rock Inn, and
the desire to see more discussion between the applicant, the owners of the Rock Inn, and others
heavily impacted by the proposed project to work out a solution. Commissioner Hills agreed.
Commissioner White stated the people that spoke today are the workers in Estes Park. The
impact on Mills Drive will have a big impact on that neighborhood. She was not a big fan of
allowing the tent on a temporary basis. She suggested trying to work with the property owners to
have the entrance for Lazy B and the Elk Meadow RV Resort use the same entrance.
Commissioner Hull agreed. Planner Gonzales stated whether or not a tent is considered an
indoor or outdoor activity was a determination made by staff.
Commissioner Klink was concerned about the proposed project being expanded to include
additional performances, and the impact it would have on traffic.
Commissioner Murphree stated he did not think the Lazy B would add daytime shows, as people
that visit the area are typically outside during the day, and past history with the Former Lazy B
and the Barleen's evening shows are preferred. He stated the traffic to the area would be from
people that are already in town, not additional visitors. He was concerned about bears getting
into the tents. He stated this recommendation to the Town Board would be a very difficult one.
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Commissioner Moon stated he was disturbed by the lack of willingness between the parties
involved to communicate on the issues. There needs to be some consensus on the parking and
access issues. The owner and the lessee need to work together to arrive at a solution. The risk to
pedestrians as it relates to the increase in traffic and parking is another issue that needs to be
worked out. It seems like there is a lot of opportunity for compromise that has been squelched
due to the emotions of those involved.
Commission Murphree added he thought the parking issue was very fixable, if the parties would
communicate and be willing to compromise. He would like to see the application continued to
allow additional communication between the parties involved.
Town Attorney White stated the applicant has submitted a plan for review, and has a right for the
Planning Commission to recommend approval or denial of that plan. It is not in the Commission's
purview to recommend ideas that would improve the plan. Placing a condition of approval on the
project regarding communication with other parties is not appropriate, as the applicant has no
control over a third party. Attorney White stated continuing the meeting is an option, to allow the
applicant time to address the concerns presented today.
Conditions of Approval
1. Compliance with affected agency emails and memos:
a. Upper Thompson Sanitation District memo dated January 25, 2016
b. Estes Valley Fire Protection District memo dated January 27, 2016
c. Town of Estes Park Utilities Department memo dated February 1, 2016
d. Town of Este Park Public Works Department memo dated February 19, 2016
e. Larimer County Engineering emails dated March 2, 2016 & April 6, 2016
2. The applicant shall submit an amended road design plan set addressing the comments
from Larimer County Engineering in regards to the right turn lane being extended.
3. The applicant shall amended the development plan set as follows:
a. Change 125PPL/Bus to 50PPL/Bus
b. Remove installation of right turn from Phase 1 and include in Phase 2 plan
c. Under required parking, change 3.5 people/vehicle to 3.75 people/vehicle, per traffic
study analysis
d. Change required 215 spaced to 200 spaces, per traffic study analysis
e. Change water main extension distance from building from 525 feet to 250 feet.
4. Variance approval by the Board of Adjustment is required for off-street loading area
location.
5. A noise reading shall be performed prior to the first show in the temporary tent to ensure
compliance with the noise ordinance. Noise study results shall be submitted to staff for
review and approval.
6. Dust mitigation efforts shall be performed by the applicant as proposed in the Statement of
Intent for the Phase 1 and Phase 2 dirt parking lot prior to every phone and during high
wind storm events.
7. A JWD (Jurisdictional Wetland Delineation) shall be conducted on the site to formally
delineate the potential wetland areas. Results shall be submitted to staff prior to the
Board of Trustee meeting.
8. Plans for the food service operations shall be approved by the Larimer County Department
of Health and Environment prior to issuance of a building permit.
9. A photometric study shall be submitted to staff before construction of the final parking lot
design.
10. A 15-foot utility easement shall be recorded separately from the development plan.
11. Construction plans shall be reviewed and approved prior to issuance of any building or
grading permit.
It was moved and seconded (Moon/Hills) to continue the review of the Special Review
application to the next meeting, and requesting staff to initiate a discussion with CDOT
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regarding the signalization at the intersection of Highway 36 and Spur 66, and the motion
passed unanimously.
REPORTS
1. Interim Director Cumbo reported the first meeting of the County's Vacation Home Task
Force for vacation rentals with occupancies of nine and over will be meeting April 27th
from 1-5 p.m. During the joint meeting between the County Commissioners and the Town
Trustees, they agreed on most of the regulations except the cap, and because of that no
amendments to the current regulations have been finalized. We are currently functioning
under the current regulations that have been in effect, and will have additional
discussions/study sessions with the new Trustees.
Interim Director Cumbo reported the amendments to the EVDC regarding density
calculations and employee housing were approved by the Town Board and the County
Commission.
Interim Director Cumbo reported two candidates for the Community Development
Director were interviewed. One was offered the position but declined the offer. The
search continues.
Interim Director Cumbo reported the vacant Planner position has been posted.
Environmental Planner Tina Kurtz reported a public meeting on the technical aspects of
how the hydrology study was being conducted was held this morning. The results will be
available in June, and another public meeting will be held to announce and discuss the
results.
Environmental Planner Tina Kurtz reported the US Army Corps of Engineers will be in
town the week of May 9th to gather data for a non-structural floodproofing study of the
downtown area. There will be a public meeting on May 9th to discuss the process.
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There being no further business. Chair Huli adjourned the meeting at 5:32 P-m-
Karen Thompson,<Rer:tSrding Secretary