HomeMy WebLinkAboutMINUTES Estes Valley Planning Commission 2017-09-19RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
Estes Valley Planning Commission
September 19, 2017
Board Room, Estes Park Town Hall
Commission:
Attending:
Aiso Attending:
Absent:
Chair Russ Schneider, Vice-Chair Bob Leavitt, Commissioners Betty Hull, Steve
Murphree, Sharry White, Robert Foster, Doyle Baker
Chair Russ Schneider, Vice-Chair Leavitt, Commissioners Betty Hull, Steve
Murphree, Sharry White, Robert Foster, and Doyle Baker
Planner Audem Gonzales, Planner Carrie McCool, Code Compliance Officer
Linda Hardin, Planner Robin Becker, Town Board Liaison Ron Norris, and
Recording Secretary Karen Thompson
Director Randy Hunt, Town Attorney Greg White, County Staff Liaison Michael
Whitley
Chair Schneider called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m. He explained the purpose of the Planning
Commission. There were approximately 45 people in attendance.
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
It was moved and seconded (White/Hull) to approve the agenda as presented and the motion
passed 7-0.
2. PUBLIC COMMENT
Tom Gootz/town resident suggested someone at Town Hall let the public know who was putting
the Comprehensive Plan together. He recommended a press release on the topic.
Pat Newsom/town resident is opposed to change in Estes Park. She is concerned about several
proposed code changes.
Betty Hull/Planning Commissioner requested an explanation about "floating" zoning. She was
confused about all the attention the nonconforming lots were getting. She was opposed to
changes in single-family zone districts.
3. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Approval of August 15, 2017 Planning Commission meeting minutes.
B. Request to continue to the October 17, 2017 meeting an amendment to the Estes Valley
Development Code (EVDC) to add a definition for the term "Single-Family Use".
C. Request to continue to the October 17, 2017 meeting an amendment to the EVDC to
eliminate applicability and use of the Attainable Housing Density Bonus in the RE-1, RE, E-
1, E, R, and R-2 zone districts.
It was moved and seconded Leavitt/White) to approve the consent agenda as presented and the
motion passed 6-0 with Commissioner Baker abstaining.
4. LARGE VACATION HOME REVIEW - 152 STANLEY CIRCLE DRIVE; MIKE & CINDY KINGSWOOD,
OWNERS -12 OCCUPANTS
Code Compliance Officer (CCO) Hardin stated the lot size is less than one-acre minimum
requirement.
Commissioner Baker pointed out that the county records shows one less bedroom than the
application. Director Hardin clarified the update to the county records has not yet been made.
The home inspection was approved.
Public Comment
None.
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It was moved and seconded (Murphree/Hull) to approve the vacation home at 152 Stanley
Circle Drive to allow a maximum of twelve (12) occupants and the motion passed unanimously.
5. LARGE VACATION HOME REVIEW - 410 RIVERSIDE DRIVE; ANN MISEL (STANLEY KRAUS LIVING
TRUST), OWNER; 12 OCCUPANTS
CCO Hardin stated the lot size is less than one-acre minimum requirement, and the setback on the
east side is six feet less than the required 25 feet.
Public Comment
None.
It was moved and seconded (White/Baker) to approve the vacation home at 410 Riverside Drive
to allow a maximum of twelve (12) occupants and the motion passed unanimously.
6. LARGE VACATION HOME REVIEW - 3430 EAGLECLIFF CIRCLE DRIVE; JEFFREY HYLER, OWNER; 12
OCCUPANTS
CCO Hardin stated the lot size is less than one-acre minimum requirement, and the front setback
is ten feet and the rear setback is 20 feet, where 25 feet is required on all sides.
Public Comment
None.
It was moved and seconded (Foster/Murphree) to approve the vacation home at 3430 Eagiecliff
Circle Drive to allow a maximum of twelve (12) occupants and the motion passed unanimously.
7. SPECIAL REVIEW DEVELOPMENT PLAN; ESTES PARK BAPTIST CHURCH EXPANSION; 2200 MALL
ROAD Continued from August EVPC meeting.
Planner Gonzales stated this project was continued from the August meeting to allow the
applicant to be present, as he was absent last month. There were lingering questions from the
public regarding landscaping, use of the buiiding, and future intentions. The application is a
request to expand the existing church with a 9,000 square foot addition. Written permission has
been provided by the Federal government regarding access to the property from Mall Road.
Additional parking will be added to the south, with the addition being to the west of the existing
building. Landscaping on the west property line was an issue in the last meeting, and the
applicant is now proposing to add two additional trees in that area. Applicant is now proposing a
two-phased approach; finishing out a portion of the addition with classrooms, but not the entire
buiiding. A future single-famiiy home is aliowed by right on the property, and is not part of the
special review; however, the applicant provided the plans for the benefit of the public. The total
structure count will be two parsonages, one future maintenance shed (20 x 30), one office
building, and the existing church with the addition. The proposed office building will not have a
kitchen. Planner Gonzales stated no additional public comment was received since the last
meeting.
Staff and commission Discussion
Comments included but were not limited to: there are no design standards in the EVDC; the
landscape buffer that is required is around the boundaries; landscaping of the parking area or
around the new addition is not required; no interior landscaping is required.
Public Comment
Lonnie Sheldon/project engineer introduced members of the engineering team.
Paui Logue/Pastor of the church apologized for any issues that he has caused that may have been
offensive. He stated the security lights on the parsonage will remain. He stated he spoke with one
of the neighbors regarding the relocation of the modular, and understood they were in
agreement about the placement. He stated the church often houses volunteers that come to the
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area to do various types of work for the community, and they often bring their RVs and park them
at the church.
Ralph Nations/project manager with the church stated there were several incorrect statements
made by the public last month. He stated the waiver request was for landscape buffering so they
would not have to landscape the entire south side of the property. The change was not discussed
with the neighbors. Commissioner White stated parking RVs on the property was not allowed,
and recommended the applicant have a conversation with the Community Development
Department regarding allowable uses on the property. After a brief discussion. Planner Gonzales
stated the proposal calls for the planting of eight more trees around the parking area, and twelve
additional shrubs.
Joy Harvey/county resident stated the neighbors would like to have transparency from the church
representatives. The neighbors have no issues with the various church ministries, but they do
have issues with the potential impact of the proposed development to the neighbors. She
requested the Commission deny the landscaping waiver.
Laura Case/county resident was concerned about additional exterior lighting. She requested there
be no construction traffic on Joel Estes Drive if the project was approved, and was opposed to the
landscape waiver.
Jeremy CoHinette/county resident was concerned about how they were really going to use the
additional 9,000 square feet, wondering if it would become housing.
Ralph Nations stated the new addition will be used for classrooms for children and youth. He
stated they would not be housing people there, except for occasional overnight volunteers. He
was working with Planner Gonzales regarding Temporary Use Permits for this use.
Lonnie Sheldon stated a neighborhood meeting was not required. The applicant is not required to
pave the gravel road.
Chris Lee/Kennedy Architecture Group stated each level of the addition would be 4,500 square
feet, and would include a warming kitchen. The upper level will allow easier access to the second
floor via two bridges, while the lower level will have natural light to the south.
Staff and Commission Discussion
Planner Gonzales reminded the Commissioners to include any additional conditions of approval in
the motion.
Commissioner comments included, but were not limited to: Temporary Use Permits may solve the
issue of the overnight RVs; a landscaping plan was requested to ensure all required landscaping
would be installed; request to have all exterior lighting be code compliant.
Lonnie Sheldon stated the church is willing to install code compliant interior and perimeter
landscaping as part of the building permit set, which would need to be completed before a
Certificate of Occupancy would be issued. They will also comply with the dark sky ordinance for all
buildings on the property.
Conditions of Approvai (as recommended by the Planning Commission)
1. The landscape waiver will not be granted as requested on the south and west property
boundaries.
2. Entire site will be compliant with the dark sky ordinance.
It was moved and seconded (White/Hull) to recommend approval of the Estes Park Baptist
Church Special Review to the Larimer Board of County Commissioners according to the findings
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of fact and the conditions of approval as recommended by the Planning Commission and the
motion passed unanimously.
Chair Schneider requested a five minute recess at 3:09 p.m.
8. DEVELOPMENT PLAN & PRELIMINARY TOWNHOME SUBDIVISION PLAT; RAVEN ROCK
TOWNHOMES; TRBD PROMONTORY DRIVE
Planner Gonzales stated the subject property is zoned A-Accommodations, and is approximately
10 acres in size. It was annexed into the town limits earlier this year. The applicants, James &
Susan Mackey, propose to develop the property with 38 units in 19 duplexes, including three
outlets and three detention ponds. Three utility easements would also to be dedicated on the
plat, along with a dedicated town Right-of-Way. A private circle drive is proposed, with additional
private drives that front the individual duplex buildings. The applicant has proposed an alternative
landscaping plan that will disperse the landscaping among the property. They have added
additional trees, and the buffering on the east side is considered adequate by staff. The three
outlets would protect the existing wetland areas. One of the proposed wetlands is in the setback,
and a variance application has been submitted that will be heard by the Estes Valley Board of
Adjustment. A preliminary stormwater drainage plan was also submitted and reviewed by the
Town Engineer. This plan provides for three detention ponds to collect and discharge stormwater.
There have been neighbor concerns with the preliminary drainage report. The final drainage plan
will go with the Final Plat. Regarding access, the entrance to the subdivision will align with
Promontory Drive. A wildlife study was submitted, with no mitigation efforts being
recommended. The Estes Valley Comprehensive Plan for Future Land Use indicates
accommodations would be appropriate for this property. No major issues were identified by
reviewing staff. There were several public comments received. The application was routed to all
affected agencies. A legal notice was published in the local newspaper, and adjacent property
owners were notified by mail. The Planning Commission is the decision-making body for the
Development Plan, and the recommending body for the Preliminary Townhome Subdivision Plat.
Staff recommended two conditions of approval, listed below.
Staff and Commission Discussion
Planner Gonzales clarified inquiries regarding the annexation of this property into the town limits
earlier this year. There was discussion as to whether or not the Final Townhome Subdivision Plat
should be approved prior to the approval of the Development Plan. It was noted the Planning
Commission would not be reviewing the Final Plat; however, the approval of this plat is
conditional to the approval of the Development Plan.
Public Comment
David Bangs/project engineer prepared the preliminary drainage report. The adjacent property
owners are concerned about groundwater. It was his professional opinion the amount of
groundwater flowing onto the neighbor's property would be the same or less with the proposed
development. The surrounding existing wetlands and associated groundwater could also affect
their property. In the preliminary design, all the detention ponds are built to meet the 100-year
event (1% annual chance). The ponds will be grass-lined, pervious, and would hold the water for
hours, not days. The detention ponds are typically maintained by the HOA. There are no
standards for regulating groundwater, and Mr. Bangs assured the Commission there would not be
any additional groundwater caused by this development affecting the neighbors. He explained
where the discharge areas are on the property, stating one of the drainage areas may need to be
redesigned depending on the outcome of the variance application. Historic discharge locations
will be maintained.
Joe Coop/project engineer stated the proposed duplexes would meet all height and setback
requirements. Floor plans are still in the design phase, and will have main floor living. The sewer
manhole is located in the utility easement. There is an existing fence in the easement, which will
be replaced by the applicant.
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James Mackey/applicant and property owner purchased the property in 1995 with the intention
of developing it. He has been working on the various parts of this project since 2014. The review
has been thorough and all issues are being addressed adequately. He met briefly with the
neighbors to introduce himself. He has had several conversations with Ms. Ray, but not with the
Keiltys. More than the required landscaping will be installed, to screen the buildings from the
neighbors. Units 35-38 will not be right up against the property line. Drainage plan will comply
with the required regulations. He is aware of Mr. Keilty's ongoing groundwater issue. He originally
met with Rita KureIJa of the Estes Park Housing Authority regarding a possible affordable housing
project, but after meeting with various people decided not to pursue it.
Michael Keilty/town resident was concerned the project would create a groundwater problem on
his property, and had a private engineer review the drainage plan. He was also concerned about
the potential for trespassing. He stated the postcard he received in the mail was not adequate
notice.
Barbara Keilty/town resident was concerned about what might happen in the future. Based on
the report from their third-party engineer, their home is in imminent danger.
Claire Ray/town resident was concerned about construction phase, and requested construction
vehicles be limited to Marys Lake Road and not be allowed to use Arapahoe Road. She was
concerned about her privacy and view corridor, and water runoff during construction. She has
had a couple of phone conversations with Mr. Mackey prior to today's meeting.
Dawn James/town resident submitted a document for the record regarding her environmental
and traffic concerns. Her comment will be posted on the Town website. She was concerned about
wildlife migration, increase in traffic, vehicle speeds, and pedestrian safety. She stated Marys Lake
Road is becoming used more and more as a route to get to Rocky Mountain National Park.
Larry Murphy/town resident was concerned about the density of the project, the wildlife, and the
view obstruction.
Kevin Conrad/town resident complained about the notification process. He stated the
maintenance of the detention ponds will be critical, and was looking forward to reviewing the
Final Drainage Report.
Tom Gootz/town resident commented on whether or not the comprehensive plan would address
areas such as this. He was opposed to the property being zoned A-Accommodations. He had
comments related to the International Building Codes that were not in the purview of the
Planning Commission.
Richard James/town resident was concerned about traffic and the possibility of having 38 new
vacation rentals in the neighborhood.
Bev Wright/town resident stated the lead planner should explain both the pros and cons of
projects. She was concerned about density, the short-term rental possibility, wildlife, and view
corridor obstruction.
Mike Gould/town resident and Promontory HOA stated this project will block their view. He was
concerned that the project would not be compatible with the surrounding neighborhood, and
traffic would be too congested. He requested additional traffic studies on other nearby
intersections nearby. He was concerned about the drainage impacts to the nearby neighbors. He
stated notifying property owners only within 100 feet is too small an area.
Michael Keilty/requested a continuance.
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Carly Lober/county resident stated the high density of the area was not compatible with the
surrounding neighborhood.
Lonnie Sheldon stated the difference between the preliminary and final drainage report is small.
There is one-foot of freeboard proposed in the report, which will be more than enough to contain
high flows. If ponds are lined, they can be punctured by animal hooves, and bubbles can form
underneath and decrease the volume as designed. The preliminary report complies with the state
stormwater regulations. Regarding the traffic study, the parameters of the study were directed by
former town engineer Kevin Ash.
Joe Coop provided additional information about the proposed drainage channel along the east
side of the property. Trees will be placed on either side of the channel. The stormwater
management plan has to be approved by the county health department prior to commencing
construction. The development plan complies with the EVDC and the drainage plan complies with
the drainage requirements. The property owner has the right to develop his property in
accordance to the EVDC. The wetlands are not jurisdictional. It was noted the wetland study was
approved by the Army Corps of Engineers (ACE). The property owner is aware of the new building
code requirements.
James Mackey appreciated the comments. He is wiliing to be transparent with neighbors. He is
open to addressing the issues and would support a continuance.
Public Comment closed.
Staff and Commission Discussion
Commissioner Baker was opposed to a continuance, stating if the design met the requirements of
the EVDC, there was no point in delaying the decision. The only comment that pertains to the
Commission was the one about being compatible with the surrounding neighborhood and
furthering the goals of the comprehensive plan. Commissioner Leavitt requested additional
comments from drainage experts on both sides of the issue. Conversation regarding this issue can
occur outside of the Planning Commission meeting, with results presented next month if the
meeting is continued. Commissioner Hull supported a continuance, and reminded those in
attendance that Marys Lake Lodge is also in the A-Accommodations zone district.
Conditions of Approval
1. A Final Townhome Subdivision Plat shall be approved by Town Board within 120 days of
Planning Commission decision date. The Final Plat shall be submitted with a Final Drainage
Study and all associated infrastructure construction plans/financial guarantees. The Final Plat
shall be recorded within 60 days of Town Board approval.
2. An approved Variance to locate the detention pond within the 50-foot wetland setback is
required.
It was moved and seconded (FosterLeavitt) to continue the Raven Rock Preliminary Townhome
Subdivision to the October Planning Commission meeting and the motion passed 6-1 with
Commissioner Murphree voting against.
It was moved and seconded (Foster/Hull) to continue the Raven Rock Deveiopment Plan to the
October Planning Commission meeting and the motion passed 6-1 with Commissioner
Murphree voting against.
Note: At this point in the meeting, the order of the agenda was changed, and various items wili be
continued to future meetings.
9. AMENDMENT TO THE ESTES VALLEY DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDiNG FLOOR AREA RATIO (FAR)
AND AMEND THE DENSITY CALCULATION STANDARDS AS THEY RELATE TO EMPLOYEE HOUSING
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Planner Gonzales stated the proposed amendment would eliminate FAR from the EVDC, and
eliminate the requirement to use FAR in the employee housing density calculation. The proposed
amendment evolved from discussions with Planning Commission, Town Board, and County
Commission, on streamlining the EVDC and removing redundancies. FAR regulates the
dimensional aspects of lots, and there are many of these in the code. FAR is the relationship
between square footage of a building and how it relates to lot size, and is an outdated planning
mechanism. Regarding the employee housing piece of the amendment. Planner Gonzales stated
we now allow employee housing in commercial zone districts, and the number of units is
dependent on the FAR on the property. If we remove FAR, we will need to recalculate how we
establish density in commercial zone district. Planning staff has proposed tying the accessory use
unit amount to being no more than the square footage of the principle use. Parking for employee
housing units shall not exceed the required parking for the principle use. Removing FAR would
make the EVDC easier to understand.
It was moved and seconded (Hull/Foster) to recommend approval of the text amendment to the
Estes Park Board of Trustees and Larimer County Board of Commissioners as presented in
Exhibit Red, including findings, and as recommended by staff and the motion passed
unanimousiy.
10. AMENDMENT TO THE ESTES VALLEY DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING MAXIMUM RIDGELINE
HEIGHT LIMIT FOR STEEPLY SLOPED GABLED & HIPPED ROOF STRUCTURES
Planner Becker stated the proposed amendment would place an upper height limit for steeply
sloped roofs (A-frames, in most instances). The recently approved height limit increase applied
only to gabled roofs. If the existing calculation was used on an a-frame structure, it could exceed
30 feet quite easily. This issue was raised by the Town Board during the building-measurement
discussion. Following discussion among the Commission, it was decided to continue this item to
the October meeting in order for Director Hunt to provide a visual regarding the calculations.
It was moved and seconded (Hull/Foster) to continue the proposed code amendment regarding
maximum ridgeline height for steeply sloped roofs to the October 17, 2017 Planning
Commission meeting and the motion passed unanimously.
11. AMENDMENT TO THE ESTES VALLEY DEVELOPMENT CODE REGARDING BED AND BREAKFAST
INNS
It was moved and seconded (White/Murphree) to continue the proposed amendment regarding
Bed and Breakfast Inns to the October 17, 2017 Planning Commission meeting and the motion
passed unanimously.
12. AMENDMENT TO THE ESTES PARK MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 17.66 - SIGNS
It was moved and seconded (White/Foster) to continue the proposed amendment regarding
Signs to the November 21, 2017 Planning Commission meeting and the motion passed
unanimously.
13. REPORTS
There were no comments regarding the report items listed on the agenda.
There being no further business. Chair Schneider a^urn^ the meeting at 5:45 p.m.
Russ Schneider, Chair
Karen Thompson, Recofoiding Secretary